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The following remarkable document was sent to me by a reader, Huda N. (not her real name). It is a warning from someone who appears to be personally knowledgeable about the subject. I emailed back, asking, "Can you provide some background on yourself and your experience with the subject you are writing about, that I could pass along to readers?" She replied:"I am very sorry I can't provide you with more information about myself because you know that fundmantalist if they knew anything about me, about my family, and even my name i might be killed or one of my family members might be hurt or at least they might send threatning letters with abusive language. So if you want to post the article refer to me as Huda only."
I responded, "May I tell readers what country you are in?" She responded, "All I’ve talked about is in Islam as a religion. I have used verses from the Quran and stories from books of Hadith (Islamic interpretation books). Every thing is practiced in all Arab countries except for slavery. It is not practiced any more as it is not haram but it is condemned by the international society only. In Saudi Arabia they still consider Pilipino and Asian servants as (their right hand belongings, if you understand me). The more educated, far from Islam (liberal) citizens the more they tend not to follow the Islamic teachings. The more they are involved in Islamic believes the more they tend to practice these teachings and follow the path of their prophet."
Here now, is the testimony of Huda.
To all you young women wishing to meet a dark handsome Middle Eastern man
Blame it all on, 'The Son of the Sheik' (1926) with Rudolf Valentino - which was another 'Big Picture'!
However, let's be honest and balanced with at least the subject of a woman's menses: the Talmud also has many of the same laws.
Perhaps some of the readers, who are scholars of traditional, orthodox, or Hassidic Judaism, could give us examples of how women are viewed in Torah, Talmud, Kabbalah*, and other rabbinical writings. You will find that women, and their qualities, are honored, sometimes, above men!
Islam seems to be a, cut-and-paste combination of Judaism, Christianity, and nomadic/tribal laws, taking the worst from all.
*Not the current Madonna cult
http://www.watchislam.com/videos/index.php?catid=-1
http://islamalways.com/
http://www.islamqa.com/en
wow, where does it say the servant boys are for pleasure? http://www.islamqa.com/en/search2/wife%20paradise/AllWords/t,q,a
Mr. Rubenfield, i just have one question from you. Are u a muslim. Is any one from ur family one, or was ur friend a muslim perhaps?? plz clear my questions for me for ur comments are the most confusing..
It's true that the only reason why they hated Islam, Koran and Prophet Muhammad so much is: IGNORANCE.
How could an ordinary Muslim (a muslim who does not learn Islam thoroughly) undertsand the dignified knowledge of Islam, let alone a non-Muslim???
All comments, curses and hates towards Islam, Koran and Prophet Muhammad saw are all wrong because they did not learn and ask the muslim scholars about verses in a Koran and the Hadith (Prophet Muhammad's traditions).
They do not want to know and learn but to hate, mock and slander, this is IGNORANCE, IDIOCY.
IGNORANCE LEADS TO DARKNESS AND DARKNESS IS A REAL ENEMY TO ALL HUMAN RACES.
I am a Muslim and too have have problems with certain aspects of women's rights in Islam but this article is clearly biased and not based on facts. It is based on hate FOR ANYTHING iSLAMIC. You can talk all you want like your statements above " If a woman gets older and does not please her husband, he has the right to divorce her" and "The husband is not obliged to buy medicine for his wife"
in reality these acts are far more common in western socities than in Islam. Remember the divorce rate among Muslims is extremely low compared to others. And in western socities people are comparitively more selfish when it comes to chosing between money and family. The family bonds (husband-wife, father-daughter, son-mother) are far stronger in Islam and money does not come in to it at all
how many people in the western socicities "off-load" their mothers (a woman) to elderly people home compared to muslims. The idea of your mother (or father for that matter) becoming a burden in her old age would be seriously frowned upon in Islam.
So lets not turn this debate in to "Everything to do with Islam is Evil" You are paying far too much emphasis on the texts written 1400 years ago (authenticity of some disputed) than what actually goes on in the majority of the Muslim world today. Any religion should not be defined by the acts of the few on the fringes but by the acts of the mainstream.
I once married a handsome dark man from the Middle East, well from Saudi Arabia. The marriage was short but it was wonderful.
In my case, we married and then toured through India. There was nothing I could not have. I could not look at anything or he bought it for me. He took me to a tailor in Bangalore and had a wardrobe made for me, beautiful Shalmar Kameez. He bought me gold as part of our wedding. In short, he treated me like a queen. He was generous, sweet and wanted to shower me in happines and care. What woman can deny that this would please them?
I had also no problem being a second wife. I am an older woman with very little money and we had agreed this was a good thing for us both. His first wife was less than half my age, beautiful and mother of his children and that was fine by me. It would be good to have a younger sister.
SHE was the problem. After agreeing to our marriage, she changed her mind and began to go strange. When she harmed the baby to show her pique, I told him I had to leave, I did not want to be responsible for the child's health and welfare. Reluctantly, we parted and I returned home to my country. Even now, 5 years later we speak and know we miss each other but it is over as it should be in proper Islam.
He still supported me somewhat for a few years after that. So please. No one is the same. All are different. By the way, I was, at that time twice his age and he was 34!
This article is horrendously biased. For example, things are said and not explained. Let me explain the bit about inheritance. A man dies and he has a son and a daughter. Yes the son gets more because he has a wife and family to support. The daughter gets less because she has her dowry which goes with her should her marriage fail, and her husband is responsible for her upkeep. Now, knowing that changes the fact a bit, does it not?
You are also going by the Islam of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia. This is extremely fundamental islam created by the British to break the Islamic countries to their will. This is all documented but not mentioned here.
I think for vileness, the Talmud is no better, actually worse because it is so big on hatred of Jesus. A Muslim will say and mean, Jesus was a great prophet. They do not call Him son of god but they honour him and His Mother. He is in their pantheon of Great People and Mary is duly honoured.
Read the Talmud and learn that "the bastard" is now "boiling forever in a vat of feces and semen" because of his evil ways. And Mary? She was a whore who lay with every carpenter in the universe and committed the crime of bearing "that evil seducer", Jesus. This is an ongoing theme throughout the whole talmud which also, btw, advocates sex with small children (three years and a day) of both genders.
But does every Jew abuse children? Of course not, although the rabbis are pretty big on it. Most Jews shudder at these ideas. And so it is with most Muslims. It is part of their holy book but they don't participate in these actions.
So lay off the bias and do a little research if you wish to be a decent writer. Personally, after looking through some of the material here, I am not terribly impressed.
Noor, thank you for providing so many examples of the horrors of Islam.
You have provided an example that in polygamous marriages, such as those approved of in Islam, jealousy between the wives can reach horrific proportions, in which one of them will harm her own child to make a point.
You have shown that in Islam as you have experienced it, a mother thinks nothing of physically harming her own child, and endangering its health and welfare, to make a point.
You have shown that in Islam as you have experienced it, the father does not interfere to save the health and welfare of that child.
You have also shown that in Islam, women such as yourself are kept in ignorance, and told lies, about Judaism and Christianity. Everything you have been told about the Talmud is a lie. Nothing you describe is in the Talmud. My guess is that you are Muslim by birth and were forbidden under threat of terrible punishment to even read the Bible or the Talmud, and instead were told lies about it, which you still believe to this day. Go ahead, back up your assertions about the Talmud with a link to text from the Talmud.
Of course there is a possibility that you are willfully lying about the Talmud, which puts your entire post in question. But it appears to me unlikely that any woman raised in a Judeo-Christian environment would think she could get away with such lies. So it appears to me that you have been living with lies and ignorance all this time.
Have a look at the first letter of John and the book of Genesis from the Bible and get exposed to the true beauty of life.
R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. (Sanh. 55b)
A girl who is three years of age and one day may be betrothed by cohabitation. . . .(Yeb. 57b)
A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabited with her she becomes his. (Sanh. 69a, 69b, also discussed in Yeb. 60b)
[The Talmud says such three year and a day old girls are] . . . fit for cohabitation. . . But all women children, that have not known man by lying with him, it must be concluded that Scripture speaks of one who is fit for cohabitation. (Footnote to Yeb. 60b)
Now, regarding your incorrectly assumptive note to me. Points one two and three.
ONE.I have known many many happy polygamous marriages and your point is very ill taken. I just had the poor luck to end up in a bad situation. These are not, however, communal marriages according to the customes of the Wahabbis of Saudi Arabia which advocates a separate home for each wife.In my experience, these wives combined skills so that the one who wished a professional life did so, knowing her children were well cared for by her sister wives. Most of these children that I know have all grown up to be major achievers in professional careers.
You are so very wrong on that point by my personal experiences. Christianity also has polygamous marriages. It is not just a Muslim thing.
TWO. This mother was soon found to have imbalanced brain chemistry and had to eventually take meds to balance out. Her mood swings were bipolar in origin. Now so long as she takes her meds, things are just fine for her. Your point about "a mother thinks nothing of physically harming her own child, and endangering its health and welfare, to make a point." is almost too ridiculous to mention. And THAT is truly anti semitic because Arabs are the true semites, not the Ashkenazis.
THREE. "the father does not interfere to save the health and welfare of that child." More assinine assuming! How we love to assume when we hate blindly! The father was most dismayed because the child was the apple of his eye. He stayed with his wife 24/7 to care for the children himself until he could have her examined by a doctor in India. She began testing for chemical imbalances and found bipolar.
FOUR.I was raised Roman Catholic but have experimented in other methods of belief. No one lied to me in the least regarding anything to do with this topic of child abuse.
I do, however, find it interesting that the abuses of RC priests are spread all over the media but none about pedophilic rabbis! Don't tell me there are none.
FIVE. You jump to too many conclusions here in your desire to slander. And no I do not lie about anything willfully and am known for my honesty to all. I am not deluded in the least.
I have written at great length about pedophilia within the Catholic Church, especially in reference to the Jesuits and the Vatican itself. So please do NOT tell me I am biased in any way.
I have wasted enough time on this response to you. Chances are you are another of the Israeli internet warriors and I am wasting my time anyhow. However, print this letter and let your readers follow my provided links and let them decide.
COME AND HEAR: SEX WITH CHILDREN BY TALMUDIC RULES
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/america_2.html
JEWISH SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE SPEAK OUT
http://jewishsurvivors.blogspot.com/
RABBINIC SEX ABUSE IN ULTRA ORTHODOX JUDAISM
THE TALMUD ENCOURAGES SEX WITH CHILDREN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zghxY-eLmO0
THE AWARENESS CENTRE: CLERGY ABUSE; RABBIS, CANTORS AND OTHER TRUSTED OFFICIALS
http://web.archive.org/web/19960101-re_/http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/clergyabuse
PEDOPHILIA; THE TALMUD'S DIRTY SECRET
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html
I am done. Now to work on other things. I have things of greater import than to exchange words with a person such as yourself. I have looked through your blog and found it to be filled with hatred something you are hypocritical to deny.
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