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    July 22, 2005

    Britain Plans New Anti-Terror Laws

    The proposed new British anti-terror legislation would target:

    From the BBC:

    It would target people "providing or receiving training in the use of hazardous substances and in other methods or techniques for terrorist purposes".

    ...Inciting terrorism directly is already against the law and the new law would try to cover indirect incitement. 

    Ms Blears said: "It would apply where people would seek to glorify terrorist activity, perhaps, for example, saying 'isn't this a marvellous thing that this has happened' and 'these people are martyrs'." 

    On this basis, it appears that there could be a whole lot of arrests in England.

    I had lunch today with a British friend, whose views on many subjects are quite different from my own. However, it was a very useful and illuminating conversation. He told me about the legislation discussed in this post.  

    He confirmed that the British view in permitting so much outspoken support for Islamofascism in England, was to make it easy for the authorities to identify and keep track of those supporters. He stated that as a result, it is now fairly easy for the authorities to go after them. (This appears to confirm something I've previously posted: "Perhaps it will make the terrorists even more vulnerable to England, than it makes England to them.")

    His view, having lived in England, is that the vast majority of Muslims in England do not support terrorist actions. I'm skeptical of this, per evidence such as that included in posts here, here and here. On the other hand, I would like very much to find out that my friend is correct. Surely a subset of the Muslims within London cannot long survive a concerted effort by those around them to root them out and identify them to the authorities.

    My friend stated that he expects passage of the new legislation within a matter of days, if not hours. 


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    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  07/23/05  at  08:15 PM   United States  #1

    I wonder if there is any real net gain in the British "keep them out in the open where we can see them" strategy, however. Perhaps allowing these clerics and societies to spread the word without significant hinderance actually spawns more militant action than it prevents? It seems to me an unusual strategy for the Brits---their internal and external intelligence services are superb; a fact which,it would seem to me, makes the above strategy needlessly risky. I would think it would be better to drive them underground where their teachings would reach only a limited audience; if some of these "disaffected Islamic youth" the media keeps highlighting don't come into frequent contact with imams/recruiters, then they never have the opportunity to get sucked in. After all, "It Takes a Village Mosque to Raise a Terrorist."



    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  07/23/05  at  10:56 PM   United States  #2

    Vik:

    "On the other hand, I would like very much to find out that my friend is correct. Surely a subset of the Muslims within London cannot long survive a concerted effort by those around them to root them out and identify them to the authorities."

    I wish you were right, but as an article in the UK newspaper The Telegraph reports today (7/23), 25% of England's Muslim population "have some sympathy with the feelings and motives of those who carried them [the bombings]out." Only 6% of respondents say they sympathize with the terrorist acts outright, but that amounts to over 100,000 resident Muslims in the UK in absolute numbers. Also worrisome to our allies is that 18% of Muslims, or 1-in-5, feels little or no loyalty whatsoever to England.

    Here is the link:

    http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/23/npoll23.xml



    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  07/25/05  at  08:06 PM   United States  #3

    Thanks for the great link. I've posted an article about it here.





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