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According to AP, Condi supports a U.N. peacekeeping force:
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice also called for the introduction of a strong peacekeeping operation.
As noted in the previous post, any U.N. peacekeeping force would be nothing more than protection for Hezbollah, which Israel is currently destroying.
But this Fox News story provides more detail on the goals of the GWB administration:
White House Wants Cease-Fire That Will Hold, Not Quick Fix
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is not yielding to international calls for a prompt cease-fire to end Israel's devastating campaign against Hezbollah militia in Lebanon.
Instead, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is trying to drum up diplomatic support for what on Tuesday she called a cease-fire of "lasting value." That is, one that would have the Lebanese army take over the south of the country where Hezbollah guerrillas have conducted a cross-border war against Israel for years.
"The Middle East has been through too many spasms of violence and we have to deal with underlying conditions," Rice said at a news conference.
Sure, there can be U.N. peacekeepers - as long as Hezbollah loses this war decisively.
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#2sarah, that was a good Hezbollah propoganda speech. Let's correct all your lies, shall we?
First of all, there is only ONE Lebanese prisoner in Israeli custody. The other Lebanese prisoners were released in exchange for the bodies of 3 Israeli soldiers and one kidnapped Israeli business-man. Do you even know the one Lebanese prisoner that's left. Let's take a look at him:
Samir Kantar is serving life. Israeli Police arrested him after he burst into a flat in Israel's northern city of Nahariya, killed a policeman and another man and his four-year-old daughter. Another child was asphyxiated by her mother who was hiding and put her hand over the child's mouth to stop her crying. An Israeli court sentenced Samir to 542 years in jail, of which he has served more than a quarter of a century.
Can you point to any reason why Israel doesn't have the right to hold this prisoner who committed horrific acts of murder on Israeli soil? There is no reason to believe that had Israel extradited this man to Lebanon that Hezbolla would have allowed a fair trial and wouldn't have faught to get him out of prison. Israel is fully within its rights to hold this man in Israeli prison for his crimes on Israeli soil. You want this man on the street? This man is the reason that Hezbollah is fighting now? I must be dense since Nasrallah, HIMSELF, said the kidnapping was planned for months and that it was Hezbollah's complete right to kidnap soldiers. I don't remember him saying anything about this being done because of prisoners, at least Lebanese ones. He did mention Palestinian prisoners. But, it's easily discerned that he brought that up because of Gilad Shalit's kidnapping in Gaza, and not because they really care about these prisoners.
Can you point to any evidence of torture other than the Arab propoganda that's broadcast every day on your news services?
"All it did was kidnapp two soldiers"? That's all? Are you sure? You mean, you have no problem with that? They didn't fire almost 2,000 Katyusha rockets, missiles, and mortars into Israel?
Hezbollah has full right to attack Israel because of prisoners? Really? So, if Israel invaded Lebanon for the strict purpose of getting Ron Arad, an Israeli pilot taken prisoner when his plane crashed in southern Lebanon over 20 years ago, would be totally OK? You're contradicting yourself. You say it's OK for Hezbollah to attack Israel for prisoners and that it's OK for Hezbollah to kidnapp soldiers in order to get those prisoners back, but it's not OK for Israel to attack Hezbollah to get its prisoners back. Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Next, Hezbollah has clearly stated numerous times that it's attacking Israel for the direct purpose of destroying it, not because of ONE prisoner. They're not fighting for Lebanon, since Israel evacuated from every inch of Lebanese soil in 2000.
Finally, what internationally forbidden weapons is Israel using? Can you cite specific examples and sources please? You really shouldn't make claims like that without backing it up with some sort of proof. Of course, if you believe every bit of propoganga said against Israel, then you probably think you don't need proof, since the truth is obvious. Israel is evil. Hence, it's obviously true that Israel is using internationally forbidden weapons.
Unlike your precious Hezbollah, Israel is not targeting civilians. Civilians are being hurt and/or killed because the humanitarian Hezbollah has deliberately set up their headquarters and weapons depots within civlian population centers, guaranteeing civilian casualties. IF Israel was randomly targeting civilians, they'd be hitting the entire Lebanon, yet, if that's true, they're doing a very poor job of it. 3/4 of Lebanon has been left untouched by the IDF. The only places being hit are central and southern Beirut and Lebanon, known Hezbollah strong-holds.
Unlike the Isaeli Defense Forces, Hezbollah is DELIBERATELY targeting civilians, using rockets that are filled with shrapnell and ball bearings for the sole purposes of killing, maiming, and injuring as many Israeli civilians as possible. You dont fill rockets with shrapnell when you're just looking to hit military targets. They have hit over 70 Israeli cities, towns, villages, and settlements. Over 99% of those places have no military or strategic targets in or around them. The only one is Haifa. So, what's Hezbollah's targets? Could it be that they're targeting civilians for the sole purpose of killing as many people as possible??? Let me think about that for one second....
All that for ONE prisoner/murderer???
-OC
#3They have hit over 70 Israeli cities, towns, villages, and settlements. Over 99% of those places have no military or strategic targets in or around them. The only one is Haifa.
I think you should check your math.
#4Ruth, that is a quibble. Are you saying that since it's 69 out of 70 towns that have been hit by Hezbollah with the sole purpose of killing civilians, that's okay with you, since it's not 99 out of 100?
#5People who focus on symantics to attempt to disagree with their arguments usually don't have anything substantial to say.
One city out of over 70 can be said to a legitimate target. Nothing said against that, just my math??? Yeah, you really have your priorities in order.
-OC
#6You both acknowledge that Olah's assertion is mathematically impossible. I rest my case.
#7Ruth, and you've proven what...??? My math is incorrect, but my assertion is still true. OUT OF OVER 70 CITIES, TOWNS, VILLAGES, AND SETTLEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ROCKETED BY 2,000 KATYUSHAS, MORTARS, AND MISSILES, ONE OF THEM CAN BE CLAIMED TO BE A LEGITIMATE TARGET. So, what's your case? What exactly are you trying to prove? What are you adding to this discussion by pointing out a minute error? Hmmmm....?
By the way, my math was off by less than one percent. 98.6% of the cities that have been hit by Hezbollah are strictly civilian targets. That's about 99%. Does that not a majority make???
-OC
hi.....we all know that this is israel's fault from the beginning by holding all these lebanese prisoners for many years away from their country and families and do not forget the torture!! so do not expect hezb allah not to fight for all these people and all it did was kidnapping two soldiers for exchange... while israel started is war and bombed roofs over civilians while sleeping!! used nternationally forbidden weapons!!!