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There’ve been a number of attention-grabbing public announcements by various Dems over the past week or so, and there’s not a new or original thought in the bunch.
Let’s review the tired old memes trotted out. Most of these arguments are so old I’ve previously debunked them in detail.
Saying this stuff is how the Dems lost the last election. There’s also nothing that expresses goodwill toward anybody. They’re all just the usual attacks. Meanwhile the Right is producing lots of original and effective thinking, and is moving to bring freedom to the Mid-East, fix Social Security, look into tax reform, etc.
Have the Liberals nothing left to contribute?
#2Stephen,
Ann Coulter seems to agree with you:
But there was no point in responding because no one had heard about the liberal denunciations in the first place.
...This is like beating Dennis Kucinich in an untelevised presidential debate. That and $8.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbuck's. I'm tired of helping liberals publicize their attacks on me. Liberals are going to have to do better than that if they want a response from me.
It's not just that we're a divided nation, with liberals watching only CNN and conservatives watching only Fox News. I'm pretty sure liberals are aware of me, and I haven't appeared on CNN for months. It's liberals the country is ignoring. No one knows or cares what they're carrying on about in their media outlets. Liberals can't get arrested. They're even letting Martin Sheen off with a warning now.
I hate to sound selfish at such a great moment for the country, but this is nothing short of calamitous for completely innocent right-wing polemicists. Liberals are too pathetic to write about. I have nothing to do; my life is over. Where have all the flowers gone?
What I want to see are IDEAS from the DNC - instead of the usual reflexive actions. Republicans say there's a problem, the DNC breaks it's neck in an effort to deny, deny, deny that ANYTHING could possibly be wrong. Witness the SS programs. I'm sorry - but it's broke and WILL need fixing, but the absolute first instinct (so to speak) is to deny that anything's wrong!
Okay - is there anything that could be changed to make it work better? To make it solvent in the long run? What about foriegn policy? Appeasement doesn't work - that's a given. What else can be done?
Ideas are what's needed - and the DNC's been damn short on ideas for the last two decades. It's getting kind of tiresome.
J.
J.,
Then provide it some ideas. If the DNC is not working out the way you want, then join it and change it. Of course, if it's not worth your time to join the DNC or to change it, or to give it any ideas, do you have room to complain?
stephen
Sorry, Stephen -
I'm an independent - I vote for whichever side has the best ideas, in my viewpoint. I don't align myself with either party - I judge the candidates based on their stance on the issues I'm concerned with - not their party affiliation. I don't feel that it's my responsibility to provide the DNC's so-called 'leadership' with ideas. They're trying to win ME, to win MY vote with the candidates and the ideas they have.
And they're not doing it, with either ideas or candidates. They're playing to the hard-core committed, which is their privelege - but it's not going to get them a whole lot of votes from the uncommitted.
Now, if they can't originate anything that's attractive to the general public, then perhaps it's time to fire the leadership of the DNC. Of course, there's some who say that's what they've done, getting Dean in - and I guess we'll have to see if he's got anything 'new' - but he's not starting well in my opinion with his "I hate Republicans and everything they stand for" statements.
If that's what they think they need - well... I guess we'll see if it's productive or not. My thought is that it's not going to resonate well, and will end up driving away the nominal Democrats.
I think one thing that's been forgotten by the DNC is that you can play all the scortched-earth political games you like, but after all is said and done and after the election - we've got to live with each other. There's no other choice, unless you want a civil war.
J.
J.,
My first point was, if the Liberals have nothing left to contribute, and conservatives have all the answers, what need is there for Liberal ideas?
So I am curious why anyone would be tired of the DNC and the Liberals they represent. If the conservatives have all the answers, I see no reason to be tired. Just sit back, vote Republican, and eventually the DNC will die out. Just be patient as it dies. It won't be long before the RNC has control of 2/3 of both houses of Congress: then America will be put back on its proper track.
stephen
My thought is that there IS a need for liberal ideas - ideas which have been markedly lacking in quantity and quality lately.
It's easy to get stuck in a rut. And heaven knows ideological ruts are damned hard to get out of. The Republican party realized that - and figured they'd better learn how to get out of the ruts and offer new ideas. The question is, can the Democratic party do the same, or are they, like the Communist party in the USSR, going to cling to the ideas that aren't working until their framework collapses? (And before anyone sets their hair on fire or gets their underwear twisted tightly, I'm NOT equating the DNC to the Communist party, so no tangental diversions please...)
J.
#8The question is, can the Democratic party do the same, or are they, like the Communist party in the USSR, going to cling to the ideas that aren’t working until their framework collapses?
Great comparison! It's exactly the same thing.
J.,
Why should I set my hair on fire when Vik is there to compare 'em?
I cannot speak for the Democratic Party. I joined it this past election season (was an Independent up til then), but haven't had time yet to involve myself deeply. We'll have to wait and see.
stephen
Well, I sure hope he's not equating the two ideologically - but in their same 'damn it, this is OUR rut, we've worked hard to get it good and deep and we're gonna stay in it!' philosophy.
Like you say, we'll have to wait and see.
J.
Vik,
Obviously not. So... why continue on about them?
Seriously.
From what we all can see these days, conservatives (and to a lesser extent, libertarians) have all the answers. There is no one question which a conservative cannot provide an adequate answer. War, taxes, social security, corporate business, guns, abortion, morals - every topic is answered by conservatives affirmatively, succinctly, decisively.
Why do liberals need contribute anything?
stephen