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Representative John Murtha has now actually said it out loud :
Appearing at a town meeting in Arlington, Virginia, with fellow Democratic Rep. James Moran, Murtha said, "A year ago, I said we can't win this militarily, and I got all kinds of criticism." Now, Murtha told the strongly antiwar audience,"I worry about a slow withdrawal which makes it look like there's a victory when I think it should be a redeployment as quickly as possible and let the Iraqis handle the whole thing."
He opposes anything that could make it look like he was wrong when he said the U.S. could have no victory.
He actually opposes anything that even 'looks like' a U.S. victory.
Nothing could more dramatically dramatize that Liberals who take positions saying that the U.S. cannot succeed, are forced to root for U.S. failure, so as to keep from having their own predictions proved wrong
#2Good points.
It raises the question, why would Murtha be so convinced that it wasn't a victory, if it "looked like" one to everybody else?
To be fair to Murtha (and there may even be a reason), he did say "a withdrawal that makes it look like there's a victory" (even tough there isn't). Overall, he seems to have only a slim grasp of the situation. For some unaccountable reason, a slow withdrawal is worse than a quick one.
In the end, clearly, the Iraqis have to be able to run their own country, and run it in a civilized manner, but you don't let go of the bike unless the training wheels are still on, and you don't take off the training wheels until your kid shows that he isn't going to fall flat on his face.
There are no timetables in war. It'll be over when it's over. The global war may never be over - we may have to keep the campfires burning forever. But almost any fool can tell you, you don't let the fires go out.