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    October 11, 2007

    On Today’s Pronouncement from Muslim Scholars

    Today a group of Muslim scholars has issued a warning to the non-Islamic world: play by our rules or face continued Islamist violence:

    Prominent Muslim scholars are warning that the "survival of the world" is at stake if Muslims and Christians do not make peace with each other.

    In an unprecedented open letter signed by 138 leading Muslim scholars from every sect of Islam, the Muslims plead with Christian leaders "to come together with us on the common essentials of our two religions."

    ...The Muslim scholars state: "As Muslims, we say to Christians that we are not against them and that Islam is not against them - so long as they do not wage war against Muslims on account of their religion, oppress them and drive them out of their homes."

    From the passage quoted, it appears that the Muslim scholars don't say they are not at war with Jews. It appears to be implied that genocide against Jews is just fine with these Islamic scholars.

    The scholars don't say that they will ask their co-religionists to turn away from violence - even though violence in the name of Islam is being committed in nations around the world on a weekly basis.  This shows that these scholars do not seek peace.

    The scholars say: "As Muslims, we say to Christians that we are not against them and that Islam is not against them - so long as they do not wage war against Muslims on account of their religion, oppress them and drive them out of their homes." They conditionally aren't at war with us. If we don't do whatever they say we have to, then, these scholars say, they are at war with us. This isn't an invitation of peace. It's a threat of war.

    The Muslim scholars demand that Christians not do anything that Muslims might consider oppresses them - including, as we know, having freedom of speech.

    The Muslim scholars demand that Christians do not "oppress Muslims" or "drive them out of their homes." But the Muslim scholars don't mind that Muslims routinely oppress Jews and Christians. State-sanctioned genocidal policies are the norm throughout Arab lands, such that, per Wikipedia:

    Mass murders of Jews and deaths due to political instability did however occur in North Africa throughout the centuries and especially in Morocco, Libya and Algeria where eventually Jews were forced to live in ghettos. Decrees ordering the destruction of synagogues were enacted in the Middle Ages in Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. Jews were also forced to convert to Islam or face death in Yemen, Morocco and Baghdad at certain times.

    ...In 1945, there were between 758,000 and 866,000 Jews (see table below) living in communities throughout the Arab world. Today, there are fewer than 7,000. In some Arab states, such as Libya (which was once around 3% Jewish), the Jewish community no longer exists; in other Arab countries, only a few hundred Jews remain.

    Please read that last paragraph carefully: 800,000 Jewish people, driven from their homes, so that less than 7,000 remain in the Arab world today.

    Christians in Arab nations have not fared much better. Per the Wikipedia article, "Islam and Anti-Christian persecution:"

    Christians under Islamic law would have been under the status of Dhimmi. Dhimmi had more rights than other non-Muslim religious subjects, but fewer legal and social rights than Muslims.

    The Muslim scholars are declaring that Islam will continue to make war on non-Muslims, and that if the non-Muslims defend themselves, the "survival of the world" will be at stake.

    In fact, it is the Islamist world that is in danger; as a death cult that threatens everyone else on earth, the days of Islamism are numbered.


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    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  12/22/07  at  04:01 PM   United States  #1

    You wrote: 

    The scholars say: "As Muslims, we say to Christians that we are not against them and that Islam is not against them - so long as they do not wage war against Muslims on account of their religion, oppress them and drive them out of their homes." They conditionally aren't at war with us. If we don't do whatever they say we have to, then, these scholars say, they are at war with us. This isn't an invitation of peace. It's a threat of war.

    The illogic is astounding! Your quote merely says they will only attack you in self-defense. Were they supposed to take it sitting down? All people are "conditionally not at war". That condition is not being attacked. Duh.



    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  12/22/07  at  04:06 PM   United States  #2

    Emre,

    Please read the very next sentence after the one you quoted.



    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  12/23/07  at  11:10 AM   United States  #3

    The very next sentence makes an assertion that does not follow from the one I quoted, and is otherwise unfounded (no factual reference). And the paragraph after that, before you ask, makes the entirely reasonable request that "Christians do not 'oppress Muslims' or 'drive them out of their homes.'"

     I believe you are right that "infidels" do not get what we would consider a fair treatment in such theocratic countries. I guess secularism (separation of state and religion) isn't bad if you are in the minority, eh?



    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  12/23/07  at  01:22 PM   United States  #4

    The very next sentence makes an assertion that does not follow from the one I quoted, and is otherwise unfounded (no factual reference)

    Far from unfounded, it has been demonstrated by murders, burning of buildings, calls for death, etc. in the matter of the cartoon riots, the Mohammed teddy bear, the murder of Theo van Gogh, etc. etc.  



    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  12/23/07  at  01:24 PM   United States  #5

    No factual reference means you did not provide a factual reference, not that it is false. If you make incriminating statements, you have to offer evidence. A simple hyperlink will do.



    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)   on  12/23/07  at  02:09 PM   United States  #6





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