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People frequently try to excuse Islam by saying that those who commit murder in its name are radicals who are corrupting the true teachings of that religion. Islam bears no responsibility for the actions of such radicals, claim the apologists.
But what is not even remotely debatable, is that Islam is the only religion that produces such numbers of mass murderers who kill in the name of their religion. It is time for the apologists for Islam to be held to account for this.
I was recently having a discussion on the comments section of this site with a poster who argued that with regard to the subject of abortion, Christianity was comparable to Islam. I responded:
Per the site religioustolerance.org, the total number of murders or attempted murders committed with regard to abortion clinics, from 1989 to 2004, was 24. Compare this to 4,989 killed an injured by radical Islamists in just the past two months.
Compare it to the 142,174 (56,000+ killed, 85,000+ injured) killed or murdered by radical Islamists since 9/10/01. (Link to source - and supporting spreadsheet).
Citing numbers from the same link (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com), Say Anything posts:
More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. (source)
More civilians were killed by Muslim extremists in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)
Islamic terrorists murder more people every day than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 50 years. (source)
19 Muslim hijackers killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years. (source)
The notion that Islam is not unique among religions in the number of such extremists it produces is comforting, but inaccurate. Only Islam produces mass murderers in such numbers. This is a hard truth for which apologists for that religion must be held to account.
#2Peace on you brother John
I beg to differ and i would like to bring to your attention the following, and in no way, or manner do i mean to offend you
The Lords Rebel Army (uganda)
what about Nazi germany (hitler was a devout Christian)
I am not Criticizing Christians but then again ..
what about the Christian Doctrine
numbers 31:17-18
Deuteronomy 20:13-20
Samuel 15:1-4
(now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all they have ,and spare them not , but slay both man and woman, infant ans suckling, Ox and Sheep , camel and ass)
Psalms 137:1-9
Hosea2:1-4
HOSEA 13:16
Ezekiel 23:45:48
Chronicles 15:13
Kings 9:7-9
Revelation 2:22-23
you can check it out at www.biblegateway.com or other bible websites
Now tell me thats not Indiscriminate Killing and a doctrine within the bible??
but this does not mean that all christians are evil .. right?? they are not many of my best friends are christians.. they dont even know that this exists in the bible
yes there are christian fundamentalists as well as there are muslim fundamentalists
like there was a red mosque in pakistan there was David Quresh in USA ...
But the Majority is not extrmist.. .. and the majory must not creat a sterotype .. a sterotypical idea is what lead to the holocaust.. not all jews are bad not all christians are bad not all muslims are bad...
yet among them not all of them are innocient ..
Christianity has been reformed to be compatible with modern times. Islam is still stuck in the 7th century.
Just look at Jesus and Mohammed.
Jesus preached love and turning the other cheek.
Mohammed preached justice by the sword.
Big difference.
The religious equivalency argument is so ludicrous. Just look at the ratio of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims cevery day. IT"S EVERY DAY IN THE NEWS FOR GOD"S SAKE. compared to the handful of Christians committing terror over the past 20 years. It's not even comparable. . And why? Just look at the Bible, look at the Quran.
Seriously, get your head out of the sand and stop sympathizing with Islamic ideology. The doctrine pales in comparison.
#4Vik's post has nothing to do with what it says in the Bible or Quran. So anonymous's quote and John's reference to the bible is meaningless. There is little refute to the numbers about mass murders committed by Islamists in today's world. That is the point of the post; trying to obscure that point by referencing bible passages is not valid.
#5Peace on you John
i wonder, a religion that needs reform ... could it be from God.??
..and if it was truely from God it would need no reform ... and i wonder what Islamic Law goes against the Modren Principles or Logical ones for that matter
lets see
"During War you shall not Kill the innocent , you shall not kill the women nor the children nor Old nor people who are in their homes you will not drive them out, you will not burn down trees you will not destroy the feilds , every person in the house of the leaders will be safe and every person in their house will be safe fight only those who raise a sword against you"
hmmm nope thats not the one..
a man stood up during the time of conquest of mecca by Mohammed (pbuh) and said .. today is the day of Vengence .. the Prophet said no today is the day of forgiveness and he removed that person from his post and put another person in command
what about POW's
"The prisoners of war of Bader where arrested and were captured so much so that the person who tied their hands to tight was disciplend and they were allowed to go if their families paid a ransom or they plowed the fields for some time or teach 10 children how to read and right and they are free to go they will not be tourtured for information or be interogated in any manner"
hmm now as for the famed rights of women .. read the posts in John Quency Adams and Winston Chirchil on Radical Islam
#6jesus peace and blessing of God be upon him did say love your enemy , but i wonder then what could be the reason behind the crusades or lets say if a christian country get attacked by forgieners let them be a secular country would they turn the other cheek .. or should they fight back?
and Mohammed peace and blessing of God be upon him said Forgive those who hurt you ... but fight those who fight against islam ...
so much so that Mohammed forgave the people who cut open his bloved uncle and chewed his liver and cut of his nose and ears
setting an example of forgiveness..
when migrated to madina.. there was a pact between the jews the christians and the muslims and the polythists of madina that they will live togather and will not support each others enimies and among the first martyrs in Islam is a jewish Rabbai who foght besides the muslims against the advancing armies of the polythists
Mohammed also said that if a non-muslim (dhimmi or people of the protection pact) are hurt its similar to hurting the Prophet himself
then again the Jews do claim that the muslim conquest of spain was the Golden age of their Daispora and they no longer had to fear the christians and live by changing their names and so forth
as far as the ratio is concerned .. look at the rate at wich the west has had provided al-qaeda with weapons and know how to fight the soviets .and then did not fulfill the promises made to them.. then again how Iran's Revolution was sponsored and by who and how? .. and how the wes supports tyranical leaders in diffrent countries that opress their people
this is not a war of Religions.. its more of a war of ideologies..
#7and if you would like to know islamic ideaology i think its best for you to study islam before making comments that the media propegates or some people declare... keeping one sided views is by far the worst thing that can be done during these bleak times where the world might be at the brink of another war
and i would like you to do the same.... look at the bible and look at the quran or rather dive into them and understand...
the terror attacks are compareable.... One man's Terorist is another man's Freedom fighter.. its like calling George Washington a sepratist and terorist for massing armies against his Nation, Britan but then again President Washington's Cause was just .. but what would the british think of him? and what about the Boston Tea party .. but what would the british think of it?
it some how feels like the world is bent on performing a Muslim Holocoust. and the popular media is focusing on what people want to listen rather then what the truth is...and 20 years is not the time frame you want to see .. 2000 years
if Islam produces such no of mass murderes .. id say Christianity Produces the most no of Opressors
The Notion that State and Religion is Seperate in the West is a hoax... if that were it.. then many of the laws would not be soo rooted in Religion
like the Creation of Isreal is rooted in Judeo Religion .. if it were not it.. Jews could and are living happily in American and every where else
further more.. to put it in easy terms
USA - and UK is Entirely Protestant
EU is Catholic
and Isreal Jewish ..
East Europe is Orthodox
Middle East is Muslim
and India and many other nearby countries are Hindu
people dont see this becuase on the face of it .. they say they are secular but the internal policies and foreign policies have to reflect the thougths and mind set of the people
now .. BBC news.. a few weaks ago ran couple of interviews asking if Christian Ideologies are Dying.. and in there they asked who would be the representative of Christians on earth .. id say about 70% said.. after the Pope .. its George Bush's USA.. that intreeged me since Protestants and Catholics had always had problems and George Bush is supported by the Evangelical Christians..
#8One of the BIggest Proofs of Anti-Islam and Anti-Muslim sentements of the West is your very Blog... where people rather then understanding or condeming the attacks .. they condem islam itself so its no use discussing here since you are partial and one sided
now.. as for comparing Islam with Christianity and Mohammed with Jesus Peace be on them both
Hitler was not a Devout Christian .. but a Christian never theless .. but i would like to remind you how.. the Theater of the Passion of Christ and the Crucifixion of Christ was used as a propaganda against the jews during Hitlers time in Nazi Germany
and for the NT
did not Jesus say :
Donot Think that I(jesus) have come to abolish the Law(Old-tesiment) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them .. i tell you the truth until heaven and earth disapear not the smallest letter, nor the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished (Matthew 5:17-18)
and
Then Jesus said to the Crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses's Seat, so you must obey them and do everything they tell you, but donot do what they do, for they donot practice what they preach (Mathew 23:1-3)
..you dont have to be apologetic about your religion ....
and then in Luke 22 where Jesus asks his Deciples to arm themselves ..
and when one of them says to Jesus that we have Two swords Jesus replies that is enough ... some people say what jesus meant here was sword of religion and faith and that is enough =enough with sword talk..
but read the passage you would know.. now as the stroy goes on the same a few hours later the romans with the pharsees and others come to capture Jesus and one of the deciples says .. should we attack them with a sword and one of them cuts of the ear of one of the guards with by the sword..
secondly .. Read .. Mathew34-35
#9Now..
regardless of Doctrine within both the Religious Books..
for known fact.. there are a few Extremist Parties on all sides.. .
1. Al-Qaeda.. (Islam)
2. Lords rebel Army (Christianity)
3. Christian Rebel Army of Malta
now as far as Taliban .are concerned they are the former Goverment of Afghanistan and are fighting against invaders in their homeland so they cannot be put into the same catagory they are enemy combatants
the fighters in iraq are the same such as Iraqi Freedom Fighters and so forth
in Palestine if you see .. Hamas goes down the same catagory as PLO and as Fatah ..
now one Intresting Fact about PLO is that even if you Catagorize them as Terrorsits .. since they hijacked planes and kidnapped so many Isrealies when they had the ability to ...
one of their most prominent Leader just passed away today .. and his name was George Habash ... proving my case in other posts that the problem in Isreal is not Religion vs Religion or Islam vs Judaism .. its a Arab vs European COnvert Jew Problem .. coz Arabs have no Problem with Arab Jews .. the Problem are the Convert European Jews who hold the Power in the Current Isreal
Your comments show how truly brainwashed you are by your Imam. Do you have any sense of objective capability that allows you to examine your own ideology?
I don't have time to refute all of your false statements so I will just address a few.
" hmm now as for the famed rights of women .. read the posts in John Quency Adams and Winston Chirchil on Radical Islam"
Ummm, ok, Churchill:
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.
Quincy Adams:
"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, [.....] Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST.- TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE....
So what was it that you were trying to point out? Adams and Churchill were vehemently against this false religion
#11Wherever there’s religious bloodshed anywhere in the world, it’s invariably Muslims versus someone else. Could this be a coincidence?
Israel, Gaza and Lebanon -- Muslims verses Jews. Kashmir -- Muslims vs. Hindus. Kosovo/Bosnia -- Muslims vs. Serbian Orthodox. Nigeria, the Sudan -- Muslims versus Christians. Indonesia -- Muslims vs. Christians. Myanmar -- Muslims vs. Buddhists. The Northern Caucuses -- Chechen Muslims against Russia Orthodox, and so on.
INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW WHY THE “RELIGION OF PEACE” CANT BEHAVE PEACEFULLY WITH ANY OTHER RELIGION.
Answer: Islam remains what it was at its beginning 1,300 years ago -- a violent, expansionist faith that will tolerate no competitors. What other religion has the concept of jihad (holy war) -- the notion that if you die fighting for Allah you get 72 virgins (exhausting as that must be) in Paradise? Muhammed started by eliminating the competition -- annihilating Jewish tribes in the Arabian Peninsula. More than a millennium latter, it’s still business as usual for his successors.
#12As salaam alaykum fellow readers
I would just like to comment on the fact that Islam was actually first began 1,400 years ago and not 1,300 years ago. also all you people seem very well educated and very passionate about what you are saying about this religion, however you are unable to speculate without knowing the full facts about this religion!!!! Islam does not preached violence, hate and terror towards others, yet it teaches love, and peace. All of you who feel such contempt towards this religion should actually research and gain more knowledge about this religion. you may have read Books of Islam written by a non Muslim, yet have you read anything written by a fellow Muslim. NO. if you would have then you would truly understand the beauty of this religion. also you forgot to mention the fact that world war 2 was caused by a Christian against people who are different. Hitler was not a Muslim and he killed an un countable amount of people.
As you probably have guessed by now I am a Muslim and I do not terrorise people.
Of course, blame us for "not knowing the facts" when we are prefectly capable of knowing exactly what you know. why can't we question? Why can't we criticize? oh, and more importantly, WHY CAN"T YOU ANSWER? You spew the SAME RHETORIC that every blind "moderate" does. You sympathize with terrorists, you justify the inhumane treatment of your women and non-Muslims (Jizza tax, Convert or die, death to apostates), you justify lying for the sake of Jihad (Taqiya), you worship a prophet who murdered 600-900 people with HIS OWN HANDS and married a 6 year old girl, and had many many wives. LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE YOUR PROPHET LEFT YOU.
I cannot blame you for living your life Mohammed did. You are brainwashed and incapable of any rational thought, and for that I feel bad for you.
What you do is discredit us for "not knowing Islam" but you can't even be forethright about the obvious atrocities of your own religion!
"you are unable to speculate without knowing the full facts about this religion"
Um obviously you cannot comprehend the fact that WE HAVE RESEARCHED ISLAM AND WE WANT ANSWERS. Answers that you cannot provide because you know the TRUTH behind your religious doctrine.
"Islam does not preached violence, hate and terror towards others, yet it teaches love, and peace."
Blah, blah blah...more of the same from the "moderates" who refuse to attack radical Muslim terrorists but will gladly attack the Infidel who criticies Islam.
"also you forgot to mention the fact that world war 2 was caused by a Christian against people who are different."
Hitler was not a Christian, you obviously do not know a lick of World History, do you?
WE WENT TO WAR TO STOP THE EVIL. I dont see you going to war with radical Muslims do you? Where is your Army to stop the EVIL within your own?
Anyways, you obviously never heard of the connection between Hitler and the Grand Mufti Haj Amin Al-Husseini.
Amin Al Husseini meets with Adolf Hitler in November 1942, weeks before the decision to implement the Final Solution which sent Europe's Jews to the gas chamber. The Third Reich provided Amin Al Husseini with a salary and appointed him Head of the Hanzar SS Division. The Hanzar Division was made of Nazi Muslims and implemented the genocide of 250,000 Serbs, Gypsies and Jews during WWII.
#14As salaam alaiykum borthers and sisters,
No one is opposing that fact that some muslims believers of Islam maybe causing harm to others in the name of Allah (SW), but yet they are mistaken and destorting the truth of islam.
You can not blame Islam for this yet the destorted inds of fellow human beings.
AL-BAQARA 190
And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.
#15hey dude
john dat is
man u av some weird thoughts bout dis religion
respect every1, love n care 4 all religions.
get ova it, our gonna end up goin ova board
den ur gonna regret it, as people r gonna fink
u r racists man!!!!!!!!!!!!
hey dude , john dat is ...man u av some weird thoughts bout dis religion
respect every1, love n care 4 all religions.
get ova it, our gonna end up goin ova board
den ur gonna regret it, as people r gonna fink
u r racists man!!!!!!!!!!!!
All I can say is WOW to this comment. If only Islamists around the world would "respect every1, love n care 4 all religion" Then we would have world peace.
Oh and by the way, when did Islam become a race?
#17WOW man
chill out dude
ur some pompus ova educated person
Not all Muslims r terrorists. Get ova urself
tryin 2 get answers. Find dem urself, go 2 a mosque
learn arabic n read the Quran, not ask othas
2 answer ur questions!!!!
if it makes u feel beta den people myt
fink u r religionist. lol
by da way im james
safe bro
James,
your inability to type is giving me a headache. I don't speak ghetto.
Since when do you have to learn Arabic to understand Islam?
Since when do you have to go to a mosque to understand Islam?
I have plenty of experience and knowledge of Islam. I've read the Koran, the Hadith, I've studied the life of Mohammed, I've vistited several arab countries and I've spoken with several Muslims and ex-Muslims.
I don't hate any Muslims. I only have contempt for THE BELIEF SYSTEM called Islam.
It's an ideology, a set of IDEAS...not a race
I think most Muslims are victims of the brainwashing within ISlam which says you cannot ask questions, you cannot confront your Imam. You have to, in a sense, become a "yes man" otherwise you get thrown out.
That's why most Muslims who leave Islam is because they finally woke to the fact that there might be something wrong with thie religion that they've never taken notice to.
#19Yo man
soz if ma ghetto talk iz givin ya a headache man.
U av da ryt 2 question somethin dat u dont undastan.
no 1 is sayin ya cant dude.
but jsut curious 2 kno wot questions did da ex muslims ask
dat dey decided 2 leave islam.
Also learnin Islam thru translation
is not da same as learnin 4rm da source dat it woz
writin man.
Also learnin Islam thru translation
is not da same as learnin 4rm da source dat it woz
writin man.
Um yea it is, it's called literal translation.
#21no man
its different to learnin sumin
in englsih wen its writin in arabic
duh!!!!!!
wen u read english translation buks
dat quote verses 4rm da Quran
dey always say read da quran urself.
even Imams say for pure understandin of the
quran it is beta 2 read it in arabic!!!!!
also want 2 kno wot did da ex-muslims
ask da imams dat dey decided 2 leave da
religion ??????????????
#22john,
in comment #13 u state thar hitler was not christian......
Hitler was not a Christian, you obviously do not know a lick of World History, do you?
clearly niether do you!!!!!
Hitler was raised by Roman Catholic. Hitler did tell Gen. Gerhard Engel in 1941, "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."
Throughout his life, Hitler often praised Christian heritage, German Christian culture, and a belief in Jesus Christ. In his speeches and publications Hitler even spoke of Christianity as a central motivation for his antisemitism, stating that "As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice"... showing Hitler as a religious man...
#23Im writing this letter for both muslims and non-muslims who have heard of islam and not belive in it, instead try to blame it.
For all people
you must know by now about people here in this arabic country
our religion here is islam.....
many people does not know what it is,and even if they know about
not all of us do it on the right way,even worse that muslim people here dose not do the basic things that islam told us to do.
islam in arabic literally :mean surrender
islam as religion :mean surrender your self to god's will
"there is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah";[Allah in arabic is one of god's name]
anyone who said this word and believe it become muslim.
To believe in These word's you must believe that:
This universe with all of it contain with no doubt is created by Allah(God)
everything even the most little things in this vast universe is controlled
and destined by God,and God see you where ever you are when ever you are
in every second that you think you live it alone or with your friend
so when you think of something bad to do,to steel to lie ,then you well
remember God's reward,and God's punishment , you will stop.
Islam told us that this liFe we live is a test
Every living creature on this universe will rise in a day
That we will Face all of our action the good and the Bad
if I were to think that there was no god,there is no punishment
then every person in this earth (including me) will do as they please .but thats a deniable truth.
And only muslims who enter the heaven have the most and the greatest rewards muslims will have, is not just to be in haven but to look to see God's(Allah) Face That is the greatest winning of all to live after that in heaven for eternity,but who deny the islam and god presence will live his life in hell
for eternity and that is the greatest loss of all.
I know you need proof of what I said :
The "Qura'an" is The proof ,that Contain god's words in arabic language sent by muhammad as his messenger When you read it, you well feel the mighty and the greatness of the words even after translating it to another language.and "Qura'an" tells us about messengers like jesses and moses and David and others ,and we believed that they also messenger and they came for the same message that mohammad tells us which is Islame ,that tells us "there is no God but Allah", and muhammad
is the last messenger and was sent for all people on this earth.
I hope You take this message as warning before death come when there is no turning back to life.
Thank you.
#24Hello Mousab
I know each and every word you told is there in Quran. but you forgot to mention what does quran teach about how to treat a NON-MUSLIM. Does there any mention in Quran which says that do not harm the people from other religion and also give love to them and let them live their own way.
Why Islam wants everybody on earth should follow Islam.? If anybody refuse then cut his finger tips. and you will get heaven and if you kill non-believer you will get 72 virgin in heaven.
This thing matter us a lot. There are many religion on earth but no religion teach to convert others to that religion But Islam does.
#25Why Islam wants everybody on earth should follow Islam.?
My friend we created by Allah(god) in this earth to follow god’s command, to do what he commanded us to do,and to not do what he told us not to do,if you want to live this life just the way you want simply eating,drinking,doing what’s wrong and wright you can,but after you die,
in your cemetery 2-angles(neither she or he as some people claimed) ask you what is your god?
what is your religion?
what is your messenger?
if you are a muslims you will answers these question then you will see your seat in haven as reward until the end.
if you are a non muslims you will not be able to answer these questions at all
even christian who clam jesses as god’s son,(jesses also messenger just like mohammad) those will not be able to answer these question then you will see
your seat in hell and you wish you will never be born.that what Quran tells us and mohammad.
and you will get heaven and if you kill non-believer you will get 72 virgin in heaven. !
in opposite you will get heaven if I was killed by non-muslims in Jehad(major fight between muslims and non-muslims) I will get 72 virgin in heaven,Yes that’s what QURAN tells us,and Allah promise us everything you want in heaven will happen eating what you want when you want with no death this life for eternity,Mohammad said that: "one foot" in heaven is better than all the life in this universe.
Mohammad show’s us the relation ship between muslims and non-muslims in
in peace here best:
Mohammad have a Jewish neighborhood he was hurting him and throw the dirt on him every day,until one day he didn’t show up,Mohammad surprised and went to see his neighbor, he was ill.and the neighbor himself surprised by mohammad coming.So you see that how we treat non-Muslims we live with them,visit them,work with them treating them as any muslims except everyone has his own religon.
And Mohammad is our messenger and our leader we follow his foot-steps in everything, but you see now ,countries try to shows mohammad in very bad picture in very bad ways trying to destroying Islam , which will never happened ,when mohammad is the most noble and honorable man ever born in this life. I hope you lisining ver carefully to this message and enter Islam.
Thank you and sorry for the spelling in previous message.
#26There are Considerable no-of verses in the Quran and in the Ahadith that Teach about the Treatment of Non-Muslims
But somethings need be understood
1. Fight a War against Non-Muslims or Muslims or Any People is only Legitimate under 3 Conditions
i. If they Rage War against you
ii. If they Persicute and Kill innocent and Rob the People and are Tyrants
iii. If they Are Pre-Pairing to Attack you and your Investigation of the Preperations is Satisfying and have Compelling and Real Evidences
as for the Treatment of General Non-Muslims Living in Muslim Lands the Following Should Suffice
They are Called Dhimi's (People of Dhimma or People of Responsiblity) .. they and their Well being and their Rights are a responsibility of the State and are given a privilage of special care and look after as such
1, they Have Freedom of Worship and Rituals and Personal and Family Laws
Under the Quran Ayah
"There is no Compulsion in Deen (way of life)/Religion"
there can never be any forcefull conversions , or any pressure of any kind
2. They cannot be Harmed or Killed for meirly being from a Religion
the Law is Extracted from the Hadith
"Who ever Hurts a Dhimmi has Hurt me" (Prophet Mohammed pbuh)
3. They are Allowed have their Representatives in The Goverment to Represent themselves and there is no Compulsion on Asimiliation this Goes in line with the First two Laws
4. They have to Pay Jaziya (Tax) as Muslims have to Pay Zakat (Tax) this is normal for any state where Citizens Pay Tax and Expatriates Pay Tax aswell
since the Country is Islamic its Citizens are Muslims and Citizenship is not based on any Linguistic, Racial, Cultural or any form of nationalism
5. They Cannot HOld High Positions such as the Presidents and the Prime Ministers or the Chife Ministers or Chief of Army Staff due to the Above mentioned Reason
Other Laws are for General Humanity and Cover both non muslims and Muslims
1. They Cannot be Killed Except for Punishing Killing someone, Rape , Adultry or Form of Sexual Misconduct that Covers Pedophila, Incest, Sex without Marriage
2. If a Person's Neighbour (muslim or not) goes to sleep without eating and he himself sleeps with a full belly he is not a muslim.. (hadith)
Treatment of Human Beings in Islam covers both Muslims and Non-Muslims thus
The Problem of Taking Slaves and Sexual Right over slaves is Considered a Bad thing
where is the Law is
1. Only the People Captured on the battle Feild can be taken as slaves people living in cities or the city that was being defended cannot be made slaves
2. The Land Captured will Fall under the Goverment and will not be Given to the Army or they People but will remain in Custody of the People of the Country even if they are non-muslims but a tax has to be paid and there are strict rules of a person from someother area buying those lands
3. The sexual right is not a right persay but a duty. a woman at the battle field who's husband has been killed in the war and she aided the war effort and is now captured can either serve as a POW and Freed in Prisinor Exchange or for Ransom
If given of as a slave he/she enjoys the rights of the slave where
he/she will be given the same clothes as those worn by the master
he/she will be given the same food as that of the master
he/she will sit on the table with the master and eat
if she desires her sexual needs to be fulfilled the master has to right to fulfill her needs she cannot be raped or forced into prostitution.
its commanded to free yourslaves and then request her hand in marriage as a free woman
if she is pregnent or a child is born from her she becomes the mother of your child and cannot be sold as slave the child is your born and enjoys full inheritence rights
Slave = Helpers around the house
if a couple is captured and enslaved the sexual rights are not enjoyed by the master , and the child is not born in slavery the child born to such a couple is a free child. Slavery is not inherited.
there are so many things that even us muslims donot know
#27There is no Command that you will get Heaven or 72 virgins in heaven if you kill a non-muslim
the Concept of Hoor is misunderstood by many people..
1st . Companionship is desired by humans even if the companion is just a friend that you can talk to as mentioned in the bible about Adam and how God Presented to him all the beasts and animals of the Garden of Eden but his heart as not at ease so God created for him Eve as a Companion
secondly:
The Concept is as Follows
THose who Die Unmarried if they are Good people and Muslims and they Go to Heaven they will Recive a Loving Companion with Beautifull Eyes since now you have to live for eternity ... you cannot live alone
Those who are Married and their Spouse is also a Good person and a Muslim and Goes to Heavn then they will Live Togather as Husband and Wife and Both will be made Beautifull to each other and one will become a r for the other and the woman will be given a beauty that is 70 times more then that of a hoor
Those who Die Married and their Spouse is an Evil Person Bound to Hell for and they are Good and will go to Heaven then They will be Provided Companions instead of their Evil Spouses
Those who Die as Martyrs i.e.
die while on a journey
while striving for knowledge of Islam
striving to establish Rule of Law
fighting to protect the country
fighting against those who spread terror
protecting their Hard Earned Property or money from Theives
fighting to Bring Islam as a Socio,eco, political system
while helping others in their time of need
die while Striving for Knowledge or research or plain going to school
die of stomach ache
they will be giving special treatment, they will be given 70 companions in heaven (not necesarily to full fill their Sexual needs if they are married they will have thier wifes and the 70 companions) and they will be like kings and these 70 companions will be their to serve them and since these companions are those in heaven they wil be beautifull
now as for another people arround you in heaven you will be with your family and there will no longer be jelously amongst anyone
there will be 28 young boys to serve you as Personal Aid and also that it is in the nature of humans to love children and since in heaven you will not be having any this will also fulfill that tendency of motherly or fatherly love inside your heart
I hope a lot of things are made clear with this.. I have convied everything to my best knowledge
If i had Said Anything Against Islam or What is not Siad in the Quran or by His Prophet pbuh May God Forgive me and all
and make your Hearts and minds tender and increase your knowledge and mine
#28Islam is on a course of conquest of the world! They will not rest until all people either convert or are killed! The only real force, which stands in the way, is Christianity. These two religions are completely incompatible and will lead to another world war.
It is time for the Western World to wake up to this threat. It is time for Christians to stop apologizing for our past and to take a real stand! Take a look at the world map. All Islamic countries do not enjoy basic freedoms we expect in our western world. All Islamic countries are at war with others and with who ever lives inside the country but holds a different view. Tolerance is a word that is completely foreign to the Islamic religion.
Eventually this lie (Islam is a peaceful religion) will be exposed and realized by the world and we will have to take a stand. To live under an Islamic government is to agree to reduce oneself to a lifetime of misery. Being in fear of being killed for holding different opinions. Muhammad was a man who believed in violence and used it extensively.
Some Muslims would like us to believe Islam is a peaceful religion; the facts do not bare this to be true.
Please point out any present Christian terrorist, for every one you may find you will find many 100's of an Islamic faith. It is interesting that the only places in the world Muslims can even attempt to live in peace is within the western world. However, once large enough numbers gather together this does not hold true either. Muslins use our freedoms to gain a better life because Islamic countries have no better life. Muslins are very hypercritical in that they riot against the western world, but use western freedoms, universities, technology and high standard of living because we allow these freedoms to all. Try living in a Muslin country and then try leaving?? You must obtain permission in most cases, not just a passport, but also an agreement from the government that you can actually leave.
People need to remember that Muslims are not united! Islam has two main branches the Sunnis and the Shiites. These two groups cannot coexist as equals. Both sides believe in killing the other. There are many other divisions within Islam and it really looks no different than the many denominations within Christianity.
To make a claim that Muslins believe in the same God as Christians is a lie beyond belief. The God of Christians is the father of Jesus Christ and Jesus is at one with God. No Muslin will accept this. The god of Islam is one of anger and violence. The Christian God is of Love. God knows we cannot do enough good works to obtain salvation and thus sent his son Jesus to be a sacrifice once and for all. Christ claimed to be God, Muhammad is but a man. There is no comparison.
If western Muslins really believe Islam to be a religion of peace and love then I'd like to see these people actual speak out on TV, Radio, newspaper and condemn the murder that the Islamic terrorists are committing. They won't because they know other Muslins will kill them.
ok islam are not terrorists, them jews are the ones who killed like 3k palestinians in gaza and wounded a lot of other innocent civilians. tell me someone isnt that something disgusting to kill 3k innocent people
#31ok islam are not terrorists, them jews are the ones who killed like 3k palestinians in gaza and wounded a lot of other innocent civilians. tell me someone isnt that something disgusting to kill 3k innocent people
It appears to me that you are citing inaccurate numbers. Can you provide a link to document your data?
#32Hey everyone. Its just this one guy John out of thousands that is running his mouth. As a Christian (Mennonite)...do not judge us by that idiot!!!! He just can't see through his white hood and perhaps missed his medication today. Peace to all Christians, Jews and Muslims as we believe in the same God...one god and all HIS prophets. In fact, give the Muslims a break...seriously...haven't they been through enough crap these past 10 years...
@common sense
common sense ain't so common anymore is it? Give the Muslims a break? How bout give the Christians a break? They're the ones still living under persecution.
http://infidelsarecool.com/christian-persecution
It's too bad my fellow Christians are living in a utopian world of peace and love without confronting the evil around them. Jesus would be ashamed of such immorality.
Couldn't agree more. The argument that all religions, especiially Christianity, are equally violent is such a laughable statement. Morons who believe this are incapable of rational thought.