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    June 24, 2008

    Top Ten Arguments Against Obama

    Obama's campaign has two powerful things going for it.

    On every other measure, the facts are massively against him:

    It would be very good for America to have a Black president. But it has to be the right guy. Being Black is a huge plus for Barack, because it would be a great step forward for America to have a Black president - but you can't elect a President based on that alone. Surely even Barack would agree that a job as important as that of President of the United States has to be awarded based on the ability of the candidate to do the job.

    Obama has shown that the majority of Americans are comfortable with a Black candidate for President. But he has also shown that he himself, does not have the qualifications to do a good job of being President of this country. He does not have the qualifications to seek out, identify, and to take every action he can for the good of this nation and of its citizens. He is not prepared to be the Commander in Chief of our military forces.

    It would be great if America's first Black President does a fantastic job of leading this country, so as to make the way easier for future Black candidates for the office. Obama has neither the experience, nor the qualifications, to do so.


    Replies: 25 comments

    Your comments are welcome. Abusive remarks and trolls may be deleted. Opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect the views of The Big Picture.

      on  08/07/08  at  02:57 AM   United States  #1

    11.  Obama is blatantly against the US Constitution, specifically the Second Amendment - "I fully support the DC Gun Ban".   If Obama doesn’t respect the 2nd Amendment, what makes us think that he will respect the others?  And in order of importance the 2nd Amendment IS THE 1ST AMENDMENT!  If Barack Obama becomes president, beware a Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein super calvary light brigade charge against guns.  All kinds of guns.  There will be a full-scale assault on gun owners and firearms and ammunition.  The beginning of the end for freedom loving Americans and the ability to be able to protect one’s self.  The 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting and sporting purposes like Obama the color changing lizard’s website talks about (he conveniently neglects to mention the right to defend one’s self and loved ones - as in family) but about the ability of the people to protect themselve against their government and the propensity of government to become fascist and/or tyrannical.  Fear the government that fears your guns!!

    12.  Obama is a color and spots changing lizard.  After the recent Supreme Court ruling Obama quickly spun (flipped) himself in an attempt to weasel his way out of his earlier anti-gun statement and said words to the effect of "I support the Supreme Court’s decision and the right of the people to keep and bear arms".  Obama is a snake and he lies.  Constantly changing one’s views to promote themselves shows a definitive lack of character, a lack of a good moral foundation and are the hallmarks of a liar.

    13.  Obama is a socialist.  Socialism is NOT what our great forefathers envisioned for this country.  Obama is the enemy of freedom loving Americans everywhere.  At least he isn’t a full blown communist like Hillary Clinton is but...  The last thing that we need is the Federal government taking over and running our nation’s healtcare system and nationalizing or stealing the oil industry like many left-wing whack job Democrats are calling for.  Remember $800.00 hammers and $1,200.00 toilet seats?  Imagine what aspirin will cost in government run health-care.  Sure, let’s just give the foxes the keys to the last of our henhouses!
    Has half of our country gone stark raving mad?  Or have we just become that ignorant?  I wonder.

    SgtSlaughter
    The United States of Texas



      on  08/07/08  at  09:56 AM   United States  #2

    Sgt, thanks for this excellent post.



      on  08/13/08  at  01:11 PM   United States  #3

    This is the most hilarious thing I’ve read in the last couple months.

    Awesome work.
    I’m truly appreciative and will email this link to my friends.



      on  08/13/08  at  01:16 PM   United States  #4

    Thanks very much, Patrick.



    ice   on  08/29/08  at  08:23 AM   Malaysia  #5

    you are all hypocrites. You dont even know what the world is talking about. look closely, open your eyes and see the realities of life. I believe you are all republicans..... shooosh and give Obama a chance. he deserves it



      on  08/29/08  at  10:21 AM   United States  #6

    Ice, why do you say "you are all hypocrites"?



      on  08/29/08  at  01:06 PM   United States  #7

    John McCain just made a very intelligent choice - Alaska’s governor Sarah Palin.

    McCain realized that  many Democrats, especially women, were still angry at the way Sen. Clinton was treated by the party and Sen. Obama. (I wouldn’t be surprised if Hillary voted for her friend, John)

    Here’s what the McCain ticket brings to the Vice Presidency:

    1. A woman. 

    2, A very focused, committed, feisty, independent, and accomplished woman.  While arguably there is some symbolism, there is far more substance.

    3. Blue collar work ethic and values.

    4.  Union membership.  Both of the Palins have been proud members of a union. (President Reagan was President of the Screen Actors Guild)

    5. Good family values. Did you see the size of her family and that she has recently gave birth to her fifth child? Who says women can’t have it all?!!!

    6. One son in the US Army and being deployed to Iraq. (Both candidates have a personal and emotional stake in the War in Iraq and Afghanistan; it demonstrates that both candidates have instilled the love of country and service into their children.)

    7. Pork and tax buster.  (Reference her remarks on the, bridge to nowhere.)

    8. In depth knowledge of oil and energy issues. (Drillling in Alaska?  She  knows all about that.)

    9. Great communicator - although her voice does sounds like Sally Fields.

    10. Deep religious convictions.

    11. No skeletons in the closet.

    12. A slap in the face of the pseudo-progressive  Democrats. O’Bama, the so-called candidate for ‘change’ chose a Washington insider who will dominate him in the White House.  A puppet President and a puppet-master Vice President. Same old, same old.  The ticket should read: O’Biden.



      on  08/29/08  at  01:32 PM   United States  #8

    A.M., thanks for these excellent observations!



      on  09/01/08  at  01:23 PM   United States  #9

    I spoke with Jeff Jacoby, the Boston Globe columnist, today concerning his recent piece on McCain’s maverick pick, Gov. Sarah Palin. Very interesting. He might include some of my written comments to him in a piece.  If it doesn’t get picked up by the Globe, I’ll let you know the content.

    The news concerning Gov. Palin’s 17-year-old pregnant daughter is just released and he is writing an OpEd piece for the Globe on the contrast between Palin and O’Bama: I don’t want them punished with a baby.

    I am sure that this baby will be welcomed, supported, and loved by the entire Palin family.

    Please look for the Op Ed piece when it is published either in the Globe or as an online subscriber



      on  09/01/08  at  02:43 PM   United States  #10

    It is astonishing that Obama said "I don’t want them punished with a baby," regarding Obama’s own daughters, if they ever made "a mistake." Thank you so much for the link to the YouTube video of him actually saying it! It’s very shocking. I look forward to the Jeff Jacoby article and to hearing your comments!



      on  09/04/08  at  04:54 PM   United States  #11

    Here is Jacoby’s OpEd on ’choice

    AM



      on  09/24/08  at  04:00 PM   United States  #12

    Yep, my mind is made up. Thanks everyone!

    Anyone who champions clean, renewable energy over destroying the last of our oceans and coastlines looking for (and spilling just a little) oil should be thrown in prison for being unpatriotic. Forget that the real cost of a gallon of gas is $10/gallon without govt subsidies, and that solar and wind energy STILL total less than 1% of oil and coal subsidies. Drill baby drill!

    Anyone who doesn’t like guns can just leave. Plain and simple. Guns rule!

    Anyone who believes in affordable health care for all, and at the same time won’t let us write a $700b check to the finance and insurance companies who gorged on the fat of our booming economies in the good times, well, clearly just hates America.

    Anyone who recognizes that war anywhere, for any reason, just begets more war, more hatred, more fight-picking, well, he’s just unpatriotic. We need MORE bullies in the school yard, they’re the ones who really kept the peace, remember? Not some Clinton-type guy flitting around the world TALKING to the diverse ethnic and religious backgrounds to understand WHY they might hate us so much. They’re lost causes man, you can’t talk to these people!

    And yeah, what’s this about Palin’s experience? Leave her alone people, I mean look at Obama. He’s only been a Senator! I think our next President should have been President already, but somewhere else. But not outside America, cause the rest of the world SUCKS!

    Seriously, I was curious who on Earth votes Republican. Now that I can see the arguements, I’m entirely convinced it’s the people who will keep this country heading backwards and in a downward spiral simultaneously. This is all you’ve got for why NOT to vote for Obama? Classic... 



      on  09/25/08  at  10:54 AM   United States  #13

    This is all you’ve got for why NOT to vote for Obama?

    With the country experiencing a severe economic crisis, and at a time when Islamofascists who hate America are killing people around the world, and hope to kill more Americans here, you consider a complete lack of executive experience running anything, to be unimportant?

    At a time when even the Washington Post agrees that our soldiers are accomplishing the goals they have made such sacrifices to achieve, Obama wants to throw all that away by pulling out the troops before victory has been finalized - and you consider that unimportant?

    McCain and past Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry had many lifelong friends who could vouch for their character.  No lifelong friends of Obama have appeared to speak on his behalf. His lifelong friendships are with people who hate America and say so, like Wright, and Ayers, and with the convicted criminal, Rezko - and you consider that unimportant?

    He wants to raise the capital gains tax, even though that would harm the economy, and lower tax revenue to the government, at a time of economic crisis, and you consider that unimportant?

    He wants to leave America open to future 9-11 attacks, and you consider that unimportant?

    Please explain.



      on  09/26/08  at  04:05 PM   United States  #14

    So, it’s all about terrorists, is that right? Even the economy somehow has to do with "Islamofascists"? Like some video game where you get to the last level and kill the ringleader and a little song plays and you’re the hero?

    Wake up! If 12 guys with boxcutters can bring a nation to its knees, how on Earth do you plan to kill every terrorist? Terrorism is a concept, not a finite group of people. And all this country’s never-ending war is doing is starting off a whole new generation of hatred for this country.

    And they’re not jealous, incase that was your next retaliation. Yes, this is a great place to live with many opportunities. But so is England, so is France, so is Australia or China or Brazil. The idealogical clash creating dissonance in the US is between people who understand how small the world is now, and those who don’t. The latter sincerely believe that things like freedom, happiness, love, faith, and right to not be invaded are correct and endowed only on those living in North America. Everyone feels these things. In fact, some are more in love, happy, and free than 99% of the people in this country!

    Things are broken here. Anyone coming from outside of this country can see this dichotomy. The void between rich and poor has never been greater. The country is in so much debt thanks to this war that we WILL be China’s little bitch if they keep buying up our Govt bonds to pay for it. And all you want to talk about is terrorists? Do you remember when the Iraqi death toll blew past the deaths incurred on 9/11? It was about two years into our hostile occupation there. Can you wrap your head around the notion that innocent, loving, faithful, happy Iraqi people, THE US SOLDIERS ARE THE TERRORISTS? Is that what you refer to as progress?

    As for taxes, screw McCain. Unless you make $600,000 per year or more, you’re actually equal or better off with Obama. This from Fortune Magazine:

    http://i.l.cnn.net/money/2008/06/20/magazines/fortune/Evolution_McCain_Whitford.fortune/tax_impact.gif

    I believe in this country, even though I have only lived here for 1/2 of my life. I also believe that there is a better way forward for this country to lead in innovation and solutions to problems that involves spending government money on something other than chasing shadows in the Middle East. So get your head out of the sand! Travel, meet people, learn from them. Be tolerant, accepting, all those things that Christians claim to do but can’t seem to get right in reality. And let go of this fear; it’s just a sure-fire way to win the battle but lose the war.



      on  09/26/08  at  04:52 PM   United States  #15

    So, it’s all about terrorists, is that right?

    That is not correct. My comment #13 discussed terrorism, as well as the economy, Obama’s lack of any executive experience, and his lack of any lifelong friends to vouch for him other than a convicted criminal and people who hate America.

    Wake up! If 12 guys with boxcutters can bring a nation to its knees, how on Earth do you plan to kill every terrorist? Terrorism is a concept, not a finite group of people. And all this country’s never-ending war is doing is starting off a whole new generation of hatred for this country.

    The facts indicate that your argument is incorrect, because GWB’s policies worked such that there has not been another 9-11 attack successfully carried out against this country.  And these are some of the very policies Obama would like to "change." 

    Things are broken here. Anyone coming from outside of this country can see this dichotomy.

    I just came back from Vienna and Prague, and the U.S. does not look broken by comparison at all.

    Can you wrap your head around the notion that innocent, loving, faithful, happy Iraqi people, THE US SOLDIERS ARE THE TERRORISTS?

    That assertion is not backed up by the facts:

    Chronicle of the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein:

    Hussein’s regime killed, tortured, raped and terrorized the Iraqi people and its neighbors for over two decades.

    Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of Saddam’s actions.

    Saddam had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.

    1980-88: Iran-Iraq war left 150,000 to 340,000 Iraqis and 450,000 to 730,000 Iranians dead.

    1983-1988: Documented chemical attacks by Iraqi regime caused some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.

    1988: Chemical attack on Kurdish village of Halabja killed approximately 5,000 people.

    1987-1988: Iraqi regime used chemical agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages.

    1990-91: 1,000 Kuwaitis were killed in Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

    1991: Bloody suppression of Kurdish and Shi’a uprisings in northern and southern Iraq killed at least 30,000 to 60,000. At least 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror.
    Related

    2001: Amnesty International report: "Victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks… some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage."

    Human Rights Watch: Saddam’s 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds.

    Refugees International: "Oppressive government policies have led to the internal displacement of 900,000 Iraqis."

    Iraq’s 13 million Shiite Muslims, the majority of Iraq’s population of approximately 22 million, faced severe restrictions on their religious practice.

    As for taxes, screw McCain. Unless you make $600,000 per year or more, you’re actually equal or better off with Obama.

    The capital gains tax is not the same as income tax. Obama’s capital gains tax policy would damage the economy and reduce income to the government.

    Why do you think it is that Obama has no life-long friends who will come forward and vouch for his character?



      on  09/28/08  at  06:03 PM   United States  #16

    Every one of your arguments is a non sequitur. Because Bush changed policies, we’ve not had another 9/11? There has only been one in the entire history of the world! We could have not had another one thanks to Bush, Kerry, Gore, you or I as President. Not enough proof to make an argument there.

    Also, because Obama wants to change some of those laws (apparently), A. we are sure to have another attack? and B. he hates America and he’s a dirty terrorist-loving extremist? Again, the arguments do not follow.

    And yes I agree, the list of what Saddam did is horrible. No one would argue that. But to interject ourselves when 9/11 clearly wasn’t planned out of Iraq and we clearly never found any WMD, and now since the US occupied Iraq there have been over 80,000 civilian casualties, 30,000 wounded US soldiers, and over 4,000 allied or US military deaths. And you want to stick up for this? That, to me, is a strong argument that would suggest we look just as bad or worse than Saddam to the Iraqis.

    Finally, I agree Obama’s list of references is not nearly as long as the 100-year career of McCain. I am not sure that ever mattered before McCain was a Presidential candidate, and I’m confident this is something baked up by the GOP as an Obama weakness to exploit. At any rate, if you Google "vouch for Obama" and weed out the tabloid-worthy Republican nonsense about terrorists and anti-semites, there are plenty of respectable co-workers, politicians, aides, and average people who vouch for him. But if you need a point for this one, yes, I relent, McCain’s resume is obviously longer: he’s about twice as old as Obama! Good thing he brought on Palin to balance it out.

    Taxes: Okay, if it’s CG tax you’re worried about, your McCain love comes in at $250k a year, otherwise you’re good with Obama:

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/obama-clarifies.html

    With 15% of US citizens currently below the poverty line, and Buffett himself saying a 5% tax increase on the very rich will likely not affect economic decision making, let’s find another winner for McCain, shall we?



      on  09/30/08  at  12:17 AM   United States  #17

    Because Bush changed policies, we’ve not had another 9/11? There has only been one in the entire history of the world!

    Are you arguing that Islamofascists are no longer trying to carry out another 9-11 attack on the U.S.?

    And yes I agree, the list of what Saddam did is horrible. No one would argue that.

    Really? In #14 you were arguing that under Saddam the Iraqis were an "innocent, loving, faithful, happy ... people". Given that he was torturing and killing his own people by the hundreds of thousands, that seems preposterous.

    At any rate, if you Google "vouch for Obama" and weed out the tabloid-worthy Republican nonsense about terrorists and anti-semites, there are plenty of respectable co-workers, politicians, aides, and average people who vouch for him.

    Please provide some links. Current aides and co-workers don’t count, because they are in his employ and could get fired for not saying something good about him. "Average people" don’t count because the question I asked is, "Why do you think it is that Obama has no life-long friends who will come forward and vouch for his character?"



      on  10/15/08  at  06:38 PM   United States  #18

    Wow. It’s hard to imagine how easy it is for people to distort reality, i.e. “lie”. First, let’s tackle the experience issue. Obama’s term as senator was not as long as McCain’s, and understandably so. McCain was one of the original signers of the Declaration of Independence. But, let’s look for a second at the current economic crisis, shall we. McCain claims that he is the only man who can correct this predicament. The same guy who was a member of the “Keating Five” and the Savings and Loan debacle of the eighties, which aided in putting our country into the last recession. I’m sure he meant well, and was unaware of his actions, despite his financial gain. What kind of experience did Obama have before serving as a senator? He ran community organizations and tried to combat corruption in Chicago. He fought for campaign reform at odds with both parties. Isn’t that experience that we need?

    Second, the close ties to shady people. Hmm, McCain and the Keating Five… Obama was part of one of the largest black churches in Chicago. He believed in serving his community and helping those less fortunate… all Christian traits. As for his pastor’s remarks against Bush’s administration, he was wrong and Obama condemned his remarks, but they weren’t his own. Since when am I responsible for someone else’s statement?  When Tony Rexko’s actions became known, Obama condemned his actions and gave back all his contributions.

    Third, he wants to pull out of Iraq, There is no longer a military answer to either the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, It is up to the Iraqis to govern themselves and the United States is now considering negotiations with the Taliban. I’m not making this up. Read the Economist. So we can’t “win” in either country. We can only try to kill as many terrorists as we can in the meantime. And by the way, Obama openly supports increasing troop levels in Afghanistan, and wants to chase Al Qaeda in Pakistan. What kind of Muslim would do that, let alone openly say that?

    Fourth, he was raised in Indonesia and is guilty by association for his father’s Muslim background. Actually, he was raised in a Catholic school in Indonesia, not a madrassa (Arabic for “school"). And, apparently, it’s un-American to be tolerant of other religions. Really? I thought our country was founded against religious persecution. Who needs religious freedom anyway? You condemn Obama for knowing the opening prayer of the Quran. Wow, he must be a Muslim. But, I know the opening prayer for the Quran, but yet I’m Christian. All those Sundays going to church only to find out I’m a Muslim for having been educated in Middle Eastern affairs. Damn! And by the way, we are not just a Christian nation. Last time I drove down the street, I noticed multiple churches, synagogues, a few mosques here and there, and a few other religions. I guess this separation of church and state that the founding father’s believed in so much must have been a mistake. What were they thinking?

    Fifth, he wants to meet with Ahmadinnejad. Imagine the Bush administration wanting to meet with the Iranian government to address issues pertaining to Middle Eastern stability and chasing Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Oh, wait! The Bush administration did that too! If you researched this before making such a terrible accusation, you’d know that the United States has worked with Iran in the opening stages of the war in Afghanistan. They wanted the ouster of the Taliban more than we did. And they’re Shia, therefore, they don’t like Al Qaeda. Wow!

    Sixth, Obama wants to use the courts alone to prevent another 9-11. Is that why he wants to increase the troop level in Afghanistan and favors attacking Al Qaeda in Pakistan? What kind of court would approve those actions?

    I guess the point is that you can believe whatever you want about Obama. I’m sure I probably won’t change too many minds. But none of what I said was fabricated. I doubt the author of this blog could say the same. Just check his sources. Not the most credible in the world.  I would hope that even Republicans would believe in fairness and truth. I thought that was the American way after all.



      on  10/16/08  at  10:20 AM   United States  #19

    He ran community organizations and tried to combat corruption in Chicago. He fought for campaign reform at odds with both parties.

    Please provide links to document your statements about what Obama did as an organizer in Chicago.

    McCain claims that he is the only man who can correct this predicament. The same guy who was a member of the “Keating Five” and the Savings and Loan debacle of the eighties, which aided in putting our country into the last recession.

    From the NY Times:

    At first, Senator McCain trusted that the Senate Ethics Committee would drop him from the investigation, as Mr. Bennett had recommended because his involvement was less than the other senators. Mr. McCain had only reluctantly attended the two meetings with regulators, in part because Mr. Keating was a large employer in his state.

    Before the controversial meetings, Mr. Keating had called Senator McCain a wimp, because he would not intervene for him more aggressively with the regulators, and the two men never spoke to each other again. And once the regulators told the senators that there was a criminal referral on the Keating case, Mr. McCain dropped the matter entirely. (Mr. Keating was eventually convicted on state and federal fraud charges and served four years in prison. He now lives in Arizona.)

    But Senator McCain was the only Republican embroiled in the affair, and Democrats on the panel would not release him, even at the urging of his friend Mr. Rudman, who was then a senator and the senior Republican on the committee. 

    As for his pastor’s remarks against Bush’s administration, he was wrong and Obama condemned his remarks, but they weren’t his own. Since when am I responsible for someone else’s statement?  When Tony Rexko’s actions became known, Obama condemned his actions and gave back all his contributions.

    From Thomas Sowell:

    Associations are very different from alliances. Allies are not just people who happen to be where you are or who happen to be doing the same things you do. You choose allies deliberately for a reason. The kind of allies you choose says something about you.

    Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, William Ayers and Antoin Rezko are not just people who happened to be at the same place at the same time as Barack Obama. They are people with whom he chose to ally himself for years, and with some of whom some serious money changed hands.

    Some gave political support, and some gave financial support, to Obama’s election campaigns, and Obama in turn contributed either his own money or the taxpayers’ money to some of them. That is a familiar political alliance-- but an alliance is not just an "association" from being at the same place at the same time.

    Obama could have allied himself with all sorts of other people. But, time and again, he allied himself with people who openly expressed their hatred of America. No amount of flags on his campaign platforms this election year can change that.

    (Continued in next comment)


      on  10/16/08  at  10:22 AM   United States  #20

    (Continued from previous comment)

    And from the Jawa Report:

    One interaction with one old communist isn’t particularly troubling. A handful of sporadic interactions with a handful of radical left-wingers may not be particularly troubling. But a lifelong pattern of extended associations and alliances with scores of fringe, America-hating radicals is very, very troubling indeed.

    Just to be clear:

    It’s not just that Barack Obama’s father was a Marxist economist or that his mother Stanley came from radical far-left roots.

    It’s not just that Obama’s childhood mentor Frank Marshall Davis was a famous communist poet.

    It’s not just that Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor, counselor and spiritual mentor of 20 years is a racist, America-hating radical.

    It’s not just that Michael Phleger, Obama’s other spiritual mentor is every bit as extreme as Wright.

    It’s not just that his wife Michelle has never been really that proud of America, or that she thinks this country is "mean".

    It’s not just that Obama refused to wear a flag, or that he refused to salute it during the national anthem.

    It’s not just that Obama’s political and financial benefactor William Ayers is an unrepentant radical socialist terrorist.

    It’s not just that Bernadine Dohrn regrets that she didn’t kill more people back in the 1960s.

    It’s not just that Alice Palmer, Obama’s political mentor in Chicago, was a communist propagandist.

    It’s not just that Obama was a member of the radical socialist New Party or that he ran as a candidate for public office under their far-left platform.

    It’s not just that Obama was an agitator, trainer and attorney for the corrupt and radical-left ACORN.

    None of these facts, by itself, tells you that much about Barack Obama. A reasonable person should, however, be able to look at this motley crew of left-wing communists and America-haters, realize that Barack Obama’s rolodex is a veritable Who’s Who of American Socialism, be very, very disturbed by that fact and ask some very probing questions about WHO Barack Obama is, WHAT he believes, and WHY this gang of radical America-haters considers Barack Obama such a good friend.

    (Continued in next comment)


      on  10/16/08  at  10:22 AM   United States  #21

    (Continued from previous comment)

    There is no longer a military answer to either the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, It is up to the Iraqis to govern themselves and the United States is now considering negotiations with the Taliban. I’m not making this up. Read the Economist. So we can’t “win” in either country.

    That argument has become outdated by the improving conditions in Iraq. As quoted in the above article, according to the Washington Post:

    ...the rapidly improving conditions should allow U.S. commanders to make some welcome adjustments—and it ought to mandate an already-overdue rethinking by the ‘this-war-is-lost’ caucus in Washington, including Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

    Fifth, he wants to meet with Ahmadinnejad. Imagine the Bush administration wanting to meet with the Iranian government to address issues pertaining to Middle Eastern stability and chasing Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Oh, wait! The Bush administration did that too!

    Much as Obama would like to pretend he only called for diplomatic contacts with Ahmadinejad, the fact is that Obama said something very different. Obama said that as President he, Obama, would personally sit down across the table from Ahmadinjad, without preconditions.  You can see Obama saying this on video here

    Sixth, Obama wants to use the courts alone to prevent another 9-11. Is that why he wants to increase the troop level in Afghanistan and favors attacking Al Qaeda in Pakistan? What kind of court would approve those actions?

    I’m glad you can see that using the courts only would be insufficient. From Newsmax:

    Like a Rip Van Winkle who is unaware of recent history, Barack Obama is citing the government’s prosecution of those responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing as the correct way to deal with terrorism.

    In an ABC interview, Obama said the government can crack down on terrorists “within the constraints of the Constitution.”

    He said, “What we know is that, in previous terrorist attacks — for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center — we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated.”

    Apparently, Obama has been asleep for the nearly seven years since 9/11. He missed having learned that the 9/11 hijackers are dead and thus could not have been prosecuted. He missed learning that they wanted to be martyrs and were prepared to be jailed or killed. No threat of prosecution would have deterred them.



      on  10/30/08  at  11:01 AM   United States  #22

    Here’s an update for you on how loved we are in Iraq:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq;_ylt=AuQmyyxEoF5pqYDmZuz3fOtv24cA

    I feel the wind at the backs of the logical and world-minded in this country now.

    I just don’t see how McCain will win, unless the GOP rig yet another election.

    Relax Republicans, it’ll all be okay. Hell, not having a war-mongering rich old white guy in the White House might actually be a welcome change. Maybe, just maybe, this group you call "terrorists" won’t hate us so bad if we stop bombing the s**t out of their countries and try a little empathy. I know its a radical departure from how many of you were born and raised to believe we have to operate in this world, but believe me, being nice to people works too.

    This message not necessarily approved by Obama.



      on  10/30/08  at  11:04 AM   United States  #23

    Alright so my link isn’t working now, but if you hit Yahoo News and look for the article titled "Iraq wants guaranteed US departure after 2011" you’ll see what I’m talking about.