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July 2007 Stats for The Big Picture.
Almost every day, Muslims, acting in the name of Islam, blow up cars, buses, restaurants, etc. The leaders of Islam do not speak out to say that such Muslims do not go to paradise.
Yet it is not uncommon to see statements such as this, which appeared recently in the LA Times:
[Kody "Monster"] Scott had seemingly turned himself around, converting to Islam and telling people he was rejecting his violent ways.
Given that public places are blown up almost daily in the name of Islam, with the undeniable implicit sanction of global Islamic leaders, how is it possible for an organization such as the LA Times to make a statement like "Scott had seemingly turned himself around, converting to Islam..."?
Or, in the words of Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI):
What accounts for the almost psychotic aversion to knowledge about Islam?
Warner provides an insightful explanation. He finds that the thought pattern taught by Islam is so antithetical to that taught by non-Islamic cultures, that non-Muslims have difficulty even beginning to consider it. He finds that Islam rejects the following things, which are inherent to non-Islamic thought.
Logic:
...the Koran [...] is actually two books, the Koran of Mecca (early) and the Koran of Medina (later). The insight into the logic of the Koran comes from the large numbers of contradictions in it. On the surface, Islam resolves these contradictions by resorting to "abrogation". This means that the verse written later supersedes the earlier verse. But in fact, since the Koran is considered by Muslims to be the perfect word of Allah, both verses are sacred and true. The later verse is "better," but the earlier verse cannot be wrong since Allah is perfect. This is the foundation of dualism. Both verses are "right." Both sides of the contradiction are true in dualistic logic. The circumstances govern which verse is used.
For example:
(Koran of Mecca) 73:10: Listen to what they [unbelievers] say with patience, and leave them with dignity.
From tolerance we move to the ultimate intolerance, not even the Lord of the Universe can stand the unbelievers:
(Koran of Medina) 8:12: Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, "I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the unbelievers' hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!"
All of Western logic is based upon the law of contradiction-if two things contradict, then at least one of them is false. But Islamic logic is dualistic; two things can contradict each other and both are true.
...To reiterate, all of science is based upon the law of contradiction. If two things contradict each other, then at least one of them has to be false. But inside of Islamic logic, two contradictory statements can both be true. Islam uses dualistic logic and we use unitary scientific logic.
The Shared Humanity of Man:
Let's examine the ethical basis of our civilization. All of our politics and ethics are based upon a unitary ethic that is best formulated in the Golden Rule:
Treat others as you would be treated.
The basis of this rule is the recognition that at one level, we are all the same. We are not all equal. Any game of sports will show that we do not have equal abilities. But everyone wants to be treated as a human being. In particular, we all want to be equal under the law and be treated as social equals. On the basis of the Golden Rule-the equality of human beings-we have created democracy, ended slavery and treat women and men as political equals. So the Golden Rule is a unitary ethic. All people are to be treated the same. All religions have some version of the Golden Rule except Islam.
FrontPage: So how is Islam different in this context?
Warner: The term "human being" has no meaning inside of Islam. There is no such thing as humanity, only the duality of the believer and unbeliever. Look at the ethical statements found in the Hadith. A Muslim should not lie, cheat, kill or steal from other Muslims. But a Muslim may lie, deceive or kill an unbeliever if it advances Islam.
Ethics:
There is no such thing as a universal statement of ethics in Islam. Muslims are to be treated one way and unbelievers another way. The closest Islam comes to a universal statement of ethics is that the entire world must submit to Islam. After Mohammed became a prophet, he never treated an unbeliever the same as a Muslim. Islam denies the truth of the Golden Rule.
By the way, this dualistic ethic is the basis for jihad. The ethical system sets up the unbeliever as less than human and therefore, it is easy to kill, harm or deceive the unbeliever.
Now mind you, unbelievers have frequently failed at applying the Golden Rule, but we can be judged and condemned on its basis. We do fall short, but it is our ideal.
There have been other dualistic cultures. The KKK comes to mind. But the KKK is a simplistic dualism. The KKK member hates all black people at all times; there is only one choice. This is very straightforward and easy to see.
The dualism of Islam is more deceitful and offers two choices on how to treat the unbeliever. The unbeliever can be treated nicely, in the same way a farmer treats his cattle well. So Islam can be "nice", but in no case is the unbeliever a "brother" or a friend. In fact, there are some 14 verses of the Koran that are emphatic-a Muslim is never a friend to the unbeliever. A Muslim may be "friendly," but he is never an actual friend. And the degree to which a Muslim is actually a true friend is the degree to which he is not a Muslim, but a hypocrite.
Westerners believe that all major religions are about finding happiness. They find it almost incomprehensible that there may be a widely-followed religion that is a rejection of that - that is about rejecting happiness on earth - that tells you that the only way to achieve heaven is to attack those who do not share your religion -- to attack them in every way, including through physical violence. And indeed, it is almost incomprehensible to us that there could be a religion that teaches its followers to act so brutally against their own earthly happiness. But many who practice Islam describe it as being precisely that, and practice it in exactly that way.
Westerners must look at Islam and find out what it is, not what we wish it was.
#2Thank you for this post. I led a discussion last week of “America Alone” with my all-women book club. We all work for a top-ten research university in a red state and are highly educated and informed. I was disappointed with their apparent inability to understand the basic tenets of Islam and how they drive current events. It left me pessimistic, to say the least.
#3You’re very welcome. You might want to send them a link to this Youtube video of Bill Maher. When they hear it from a Liberal like Bill Maher, it may help them to start to think about it. I would be interested to hear more about your experiences in this matter.
Tolerant Western opinion formers (media and politicians) try to hammer into us that how can a religion be evil, especially if it has some nice things in it.
But I’ve read both the Koran and Mein Kampf and there is little to distinguish them. Both books have an general tone of victoriously fighting the world or else drag it down in flames. Indeed, the words Koran and Kampf has exactly the same translation in English - Struggle.
But Islam is, to a Western mind, distinctly evil. Muhammad knew the difference between right and wrong, it was just that he possibly didn’t see any reason why he should adhere to goodness because he generally could not empathise with anybody who didn’t share his outlook. In other words, he was a psycho. When he was friendless in Mecca he acted with tolerance and understanding. But once he had a following by the Medina stage, he began his quest of plunder, pillage, rape and murder. Indeed, entire towns built defensive walls to try and keep his new ‘Muslim’ terror gangs out and he took revenge on those townspeople who defied him by murdering them in a bestial fashion.
Muhammad is still revered by Muslims as a perfect example of man, which is why, amongst other things, sex with minors is a given in devoutly Muslim areas.
Because of the Muslims, Sikhs have suffered, Hindus have suffered, Christians have suffered and of course the Jews have suffered. There is no equivilence when it comes to Islam. As Wafa Sultan, Islamic refusenik, rightly says, the War On Terror is a war between civilsation and backwardness.
And they’ll have nukies soon. Be very very scared...............
#5Another little observation of Mein Kampf - it’s one of Palestine’s best sellers!
Michael, you may be aware that amongst Saddam Hussein’s possessions was found a copy of Mein Kampf.
And to think the Muslims are so touchy about criticism! There’s much to criticise.
PS - It appears I may have been wrong about Koran meaning ‘Struggle’. Some other source says it means ‘Recital’, which seems as apt.
Jihad means “struggle” in Arabic, just like Kampf does in German.
#9well, guys, I will enter this conversation, not now, but just want to show u some thing, which I found in CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/09/roberts.btsc/index.html
well, I know this is out of context, and so on,, but still,
and vik I will reply this feature post, after a few days....
#10Zumer, let’s keep in mind that, per your previous posts on this site, you support those who kill people and burn buildings in the name of Islam.
#11I find it extremely laughable that you Christians think you are something special and are criticizing the Islam religion for their violence, when it is only the fanatical fundamentalists that are doing it… and it is actually the government and not the religion itself. Why don’t you research the exhausting, immense history of violence, murder, abuse, cruelty, and corruption of Christianity. I hope you realize that all advancements toward morality were opposed and hated by the church and all its institutions and organizations. Ever heard of the KKK or the Westboro Baptist Church?
The article about the Crusades made me vomit. You find the events reasonable? Did you know they ate babies? You people are not loving and merciful as you claim to be. You are sick. If you really are Christians, you would show concern for the poor people in the Iraq. Rather, you dedicate a whole website to unreasonably criticizing Islam and its followers. I can only imagine how outraged you people would react if someone said something unpleasant about your beliefs. You people worship the same “supreme being”, Allah is God. Get over it.
I am not being rude or a troll. I am being blunt and honest. This just confirms my speculation that nearly all Christians, and religious fanatics, are biased, cold-hearted hypocrites.
Thank God I’m an Atheist! *chuckle*
#12The Koran tells the Muslim to never be a friend to nonbelievers, yet the Bible tells you to kill them.
#13Michelle, you seem determined to exemplify the viciousness you pretend to condemn.
...it is only the fanatical fundamentalists that are doing it… and it is actually the government and not the religion itself.
Why is it that the vast majority of Muslim leaders worldwide don’t proclaim that a Muslim who blows up a bus, plane, train or restaurant, does not go to paradise?
#14The Koran tells the Muslim to never be a friend to nonbelievers, yet the Bible tells you to kill them.
The Koran says in many places to kill nonbelievers - in addition to saying never to be a friend to them, as you point out.
Please cite your Bible references.
#15</i>now vik, I will respond u step by step:
<i>Almost every day, Muslims, acting in the name of Islam, blow up cars, buses, restaurants, etc.
Just tell me where it is written in th holy Quran to blow up cars, buses, resturants. and u said every day.. again a lie.
large numbers of contradictions in it. On the surface, Islam resolves these contradictions by resorting to “abrogation”. This means that the verse written later supersedes the earlier verse.
Well, vik just have answered your own question. and that is “aborgation”.
Now, I just give an example. at the time of Muhammad, people used to drink a lot, and as u know that to drink alcohol, is forbiden in islam, to such an extent that even if u dont drink but u just present it to your friend, then u have done the same amount of sin, like u and the drinker both belong to hell.
So, now the question arises how this strict rule of isla mwas implemented in a culture where people used to drink on daily basbs.
Now, here is a very simple example: U know that if a person is addicted to some drug, he is admitted to rehabilitation center, so the doctors use to treat the patient step by step. Slowly and slowly. and in the end. The sujjest the patient to completey stop takingdrugs..
Now problem solved. You guys really dont think. Dont try to jump on the conclusion on a topic to which u r not aware of.
From tolerance we move to the ultimate intolerance, not even the Lord of the Universe can stand the unbelievers:
not even the lord of the universe can stand the unbelievers.
now before going into dicussion, I want to ask u one thing, r u a christian or an atheist, or a jew.
Tell me vik, if u r an atheist then ur above said statement makes sense. but if u r a christian, then u kow definately that God will never ever forgive unbelievers.
8:12: Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, “I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the unbelievers’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”
Do u know, I have already explained these verses to u vik, this is one of the battles of the time of Prophet Mumhammad p.b.u.h..
and u should know that this battle was interms of defence.
All religions have some version of the Golden Rule except Islam.
Now, according to you, all religion INCLUDING christianity, have someversion of the Goden rule.
well, then what u have to say about the originial sin, what u have to say about a women giving a brith to a child bears the pain. such pain is becase of the original sin.
well, vik to very we honest, just look at the bible there are a lot of contradictions, that u cannot even smell the existance of such golden rule.
A Muslim may be “friendly,” but he is never an actual friend.
great, again vik u dont think what is written in the Quran, it has been reminded in the Quran that the unbelievers can never be your true friends.
Why, vik just look at mirror. U will se your face. And if u r really honest, just look in your heart and ask your self, for how long u r trying to defame islam ,how long u r trying to sekk contradictions in Quran.
#16Just tell me where it is written in th holy Quran to blow up cars, buses, resturants. and u said every day..
Zumer, you’ve already argued on this site that you support people who burn buildings and kill people in the name of Islam.
Re: abrogation - the later verses, the ones that abrogate the earlier ones, are the more violent ones, not the less. As you know, the Koran was written in two parts. The later, more violent part, was written at Medina.
From tolerance we move to the ultimate intolerance, not even the Lord of the Universe can stand the unbelievers:
The person quoted is saying that he finds that sentiment in Islam - not in any other religion.
great, again vik u dont think what is written in the Quran, it has been reminded in the Quran that the unbelievers can never be your true friends.
You are providing evidence that supports the point that is made in the article.
#17Vik,
These are my bible citations.
<quote>They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.</quote> (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)
If you wish, I would happily provide more examples of murder in the bible.
God’s approval of rape, slavery, and human sacrafice rituals are also evident in the oh so holy book. I would not feel obliged to cite them as well.
And, sorry about my complete idiocy, but what the hell do you mean that I am exemplifying the “viciousness” that I am “pretending to condemn?” You mean blaming the Muslim leaders rather than the people?
Muslim leaders do not need to say, “Muslims who blow up stuff don’t go to paradise” because the answer is, um, quite obvious.
#18PS: I really do not mean to offend Christians, or anybody else, honest. It is only part of my nature that I am passionate--and quite stubborn--about my opinions. Plus, I am 16, so please excuse any ignorance I might have displayed.
#19Muslim leaders do not need to say, “Muslims who blow up stuff don’t go to paradise” because the answer is, um, quite obvious.
The Muslims who blow up buses, trains, planes and restaurants, agree with you that the answer is quite obvious, and state that they believe that they do go to paradise. If you’d like to see video footage of Muslims who are preparing for suicide killings, and footage of Muslims who attempted them and were captured, look at Pierre Rehov’s film, Suicide Killers. You will see them saying that a primary motivation for them is their belief that they will go to paradise. We in the West can’t imagine anyone would actually believe such a thing. But when you see these people saying it in their own words, it is a revelation.
I will repeat the question: Why is it that the vast majority of Muslim leaders worldwide don’t proclaim that a Muslim who blows up a bus, plane, train or restaurant, does not go to paradise?
If you wish, I would happily provide more examples of murder in the bible.
Murder isn’t the subject; the subject is a religious injunction to oppress and kill those who are not of your own religion. Such injunctions are throughout the Koran. If you have additional citations of this nature in the bible, please do cite them.
#20Michelle, I just saw your post #18, that you are 16. Welcome to the site! The fact that you are here talking, shows that you are looking for information. That’s great.
Here are a few links to things that are going on right now that have some relevance:
Another from LGF
#21Vik… I see that you are still desperately fishing for crumbs here and there to legitimize Israel or any or Israel’s barbaric and illegitimate behavior. Good luck my “friend” because your job is going to become harder and harder to do… considering that the American people (those who don’t have dual Israeli/American nationalities and loyalties like you)… and the American army are not going to remain stupid for ever.
What a bunch of geriatric morons are on this site. Notice that none of those speaking about Islam with such “expertise” are Muslims...lol!! They are a bunch of Zionist dual nationial Israeli-Americans with one aim in mind, namely the manipulation of the already brainwashed American mind. It is too funny for words to hear the Western world criticize the beating of women in the Arab or Muslim world, when the United States in terms of statistics is the leading country in the world when it comes to the number of battered and abused women. Don’t bother to ask me to get you statistics Vik as you are quite capable of googling them yourself. Instead of being apologetic to the Arab and Muslim world for your filthy and disgusting behavior as widely demonstrated in Abu Ghreib, Guantanamo, Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine… you have the Chutzpah of playing the “moral high-ground” game. Indeed, decaying “ethics” like yours and that of your entire cheap propaganda group… are only normal signs that occurs with the collapse of any empire. The best part of America’s collapse however, is that the world shall finally be rid of the kingdom of EVIL…, Israel.
PS. Please don’t bother to ask me anything about Islam as you already know that in principal..., I don’t get into “deep” discussions with propagandists… which is what you are. Propaganda is your field..., not mine. I just enjoy a note here or there.
#22Princess, Muslims including Wafa Sultan, Tashbih Sayeed, Nonie Darwish, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali have views which are reported on this site. I strongly recommend you read the book by Muslim Daniel Ali, ”Out of Islam: ‘Free at Last’”.
As is so often the case with people who have no facts to back up their statements, you resort to insults.
You claim that “the United States in terms of statistics is the leading country in the world when it comes to the number of battered and abused women,” but you don’t back it up.
Do you approve of the Sharia law practice in which your testimony, as a woman, is worth only 1/2 that of a man’s? Do you approve of the Muslim cleric who got on TV and discussed the proper methods for wife-beating in Islam? Do you approve of the laws in Iran that punish women for not wearing the approved clothing? Do you approve of the stoning of women? Your rudeness shows that you are starting to realize that the evil is within your own house and that you and your friends are all suffering from it.
#23I’d like to point out that the difference between The US and Islam is that, although we may lead the world in Batterded women (i’m not going to debate your statistic, oh wait you didn’t actual provide one, whatever wether we do or not isn’t the point) The difference is that if I beat my wife here, I will lose half my possesions and not be able to see my children ever again as she would divorce me in a heart beat. On top of that I would most likely go to jail for assualt. Under sharia law such a beating is legal even commendable, Now who has the moral high ground?
As for those who dont understand christianity its the mirror of islam, in the begining the faith of our father (jews) was extremely violent. It was not until the comming of jesus who established a NEW covenant where we no longer kill the un believer but gentle Love them into our family. jesus says that at worst we should move on from those who don’t wish to hear our message and shake the dust from thier feet as a testament against them.
Also Allah is not the GOd I worship, as my God does not tell me to kill people in order to go to heaven. Instead I am told to turn the other cheek, to love my enemies, and to pray for them.
I am not a jew supporter, nor do I think I am brainwashed. I think in fact that the muslims got screwed as they were supposed to get a homeland for supporting the allies against hitler in WWII, but I don’t support blowing people up as a valid form of protest.
For those who want to talk about the violence of the christain faith, you have to look to our past, and the barbarism of the time period. You will not see chirstains blowing themselves up in order to gain entrance to heaven, and you can criticise my religon and my govt to your hearts content and you will never see me start a riot or burn anything down or call for a jihad against you and yours. I’ll probably even join in with you about alot of the stuff. i can take a joke, I can take well meaning critiscm, i can even *gasp* admit when I or my faith have simply been wrong. As a christain I am Called to be perfect but its understood that its impossible and thats why we have grace.
I’ll tell you the reason that moderate and liberal leaders in the muslim faith refuse to condemn the Mullahs who preach death and destruction of the west at any cost including matrydom, Fear. Because they know that they will make themselves a target of these groups should they speak against them.
We are not “claiming the moral high ground” we own it. And all of the rhetoric, slander and insults on your part will never change that.
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)
Michelle
Michelle [Judge for yourself...]
Jer 51:57 And I will make drunk her princes, and her wise men, her captains, and her rulers, and her mighty men: and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the LORD of hosts.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
The whole congregation of God includes those who dwell in the heavens also.
Mat 21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this Stone [The Word of God] shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Ecc 3:5 [For there is] A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; [into the resurrection of Life]
Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
All others:
Hbr 11:12 Therefore sprang there even of one [Esau - who married into Ishmael’s daughters - a thing that he was told not to do], and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.
Isa 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, {made up many members] and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
Luk 11:44 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.
Isa 26:14 They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice
Mat 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels [not humans] shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just
The New Testament [The Book of the Christians] offers not one single Scripture that teaches humans to be violent with each other. Quite the contrary is taught.
The Koran on the other hand - if all of the violent, hate-filled and oppressive writings were removed - there wouldn’t be much left.
Even being an atheist - which one would you rather had fed to the young?
For it is certain - that ALL will reap what the mosques are sowing.
Beheadings, gang rape, the cutting off of limbs, crucifixions, treason, genocide and more - all on a level that a 10-year old can understand.
If any deny - I can give them - chapter, verse - and writing.
And if any come forth to claim that the writings are being taken out of context - I say - so will those among the millions who are introduced to them - take them out of context. One example of the many:
047.004 Therefore, when ye meet ‘’’the Unbelievers’’’ in fight, smite at their necks. Behead them! and the Muslims are commanded to initiate the fight} 002.216 - 009.039 - throughout the earth} 004.101 - 004.100
Beheadings, gang rape, crucifixions, cutting off limbs, treason, genocide - These are what the Koran sows.
ALL will reap what the mosques are sowing. [and they only just begun - in America]
Here is a question for the whole Islamic world:
Upon what Holy Spiritual Athority does Islam demand that Palestine be established?
The Koran mentions the name Israel (even devoted a whole chapter to the children of Israel) - but not once - does the Koran ever mention the name Palestine.
The God of the Bible mentions Palestine - in a prophetic song - the song of Moses. The saints ‘sing’ this song. And they have Isaiah and Joel for upon the testimony of two or three witnesses - shall the matter be established.
There was the prophecy about Palestine - for end time - in the Book that Moses delivered - the whole time - even while Muhammad wrote his Koran.
It’s terrifying!
#26You’re review of Islam and the teachings of the Qur’an is wrong on so many levels that it would take me the better part of the day just to figure out where to begin. So, not having that kind of time to spare today I will just cut to the chase of what it is that I am still perplexed by in these kinds of writings.
Are you and the others like you who, seem to be posting all over the net these days, part of a larger propaganda operation run by the federal government? Perhaps the underground operation version of the disinformation unit that Donald Rumsfeld was going to operate out of the Pentagon, before he about got run out of town for it? He did say after that debacle that he was going to run some kind of operation like that even if he couldn’t name it what he wanted to. Are you part of that unit Mr. Rumsfeld was talking about?
Or are you really just this ignorant of the world around you?
I am hoping that the former is the answer. Because, if the later is true; well I know that we have developed some difficulties in the country’s educational system over the last couple of decades, but I simply did not understand they were this severe.
I am greatly looking forward to your response as it will really help to clarify for me as to whether or not I should get involved more with school issues these days. I myself was one of the fortunate ones who were able to by-pass the public school system but, I very much think that it is an obligation of all Americans to try and make it the best we can for those who were not as lucky. It is, after all you know, in the country’s best interest.
Well, anyway, hope to hear back from you soon.
R. Connors
#27<quote>Also Allah is not the GOd I worship</quote>
So, does that mean there are multiple gods?
#28"We are not “claiming the moral high ground we own it”
I’ll say! And it looks like you got a lock on humility too.
#29Another little observation of Mein Kampf - it’s one of Palestine’s best sellers!
Yeah and if Christian fundamentalist ever read it, it would be one of their’s too. Here’s a few quotes from it.
“The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God’s will, and actually fulfill God’s will, and not let God’s word be desecrated. For God’s will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord’s creation, the divine will.”
“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
““My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago — a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people.”
““I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of Providence.”
So take those to church next Sunday and you’ll be the hit of the day. I know they make me so happy that America also has a good God fearing Christian as president to lead us through these dark and dangerous times we are living through.
#30r. connors,
The ad hominem argument is considered a logical fallacy, as well as an indication of a lack of facts to back up a point of view:
An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the person”, “argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.
If you have any facts to back up your point of view, please post them.
#31"Ad hominem attack.” Boy you don’t hear that response from fascist very often when they are confronted with fact.
As for facts, I already posted them. As for facts about the Qur’an, why don’t you go and read it if you really want to know what it’s about.
#32As for facts, I already posted them.
Please cite one fact you posted in your comment #26.
<quote>He finds that the thought pattern taught by Islam is so antithetical to that taught by non-Islamic cultures, that non-Muslims have difficulty even beginning to consider it.</quote>
Bill Warner brilliantly states what many of us have instinctively suspected. Indeed, the mind of a person raised in Islam is so fundamentally far from that of a person who is non-Muslim, that the non-Muslim - without some real education - has no grasp of it.
In order to understand our fellow man, we all begin with a common ethical foundation. But when the common ethical foundation is nonexistant - we struggle to find a new paradigm - or in the case of radical Islam, any paradigm at all.
I have often thought that the reason much of the Christian world fails to confront the evil of radical Islam is because Christians as a whole are still assuming a common ground between the two religions, and the truth is, one doesn’t really exist. The Christian failure to fully realize that, continues to put and to keep the West in danger.